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AdamSanta85

Well-known member
Could always give the LS forum a try. If it doesn't take off after a couple months just merge it. I dunno, no pressure.
 

rocky

NAS-ROW Addict
Honestly let the LS and other custom engine swaps threads happen here. If there develops a need for an "alternative engine section", it will show itself organically by the popularity of the swaps.
Right now there seem to be plenty of Rover V8s out there fs. So I'm not worrying much about availability, despite it being 21 years since my truck's engine was born.
 

mgreenspan

Founding Member
I hate the LS thread on D90, but I'd you have questions you can always ask Nick himself. A good step by step install by a user would be a good tech writeup. I'll volunteer when my indestructible Mazda diesel is destruct.
 

AdamSanta85

Well-known member
Honestly let the LS and other custom engine swaps threads happen here. If there develops a need for an "alternative engine section", it will show itself organically by the popularity of the swaps.
Right now there seem to be plenty of Rover V8s out there fs. So I'm not worrying much about availability, despite it being 21 years since my truck's engine was born.

That attitude is going to keep the LS thread on DSource alive. Why bother posting an LS question here when all the LS knowledge is there. By giving them there own section, you are giving them a reason to come here. Otherwise what is the difference? Second to "What have you done to your Defender today", it is the most viewed thread on the forum by a massive margin. If that doesn't deserve it's own section then nothing does. Not only that, but most of the people swapping LS engines actually know what they doing to at least some degree. A forum needs knowledge, not people who don't know how to change an air filter or tighten a lug nut.

And what does Rover V8's have to do with anything? If you think people are swapping in LS's because of anything to do with Rover V8's, you don't "get it".

Anyway I gave my suggestion. Not my forum. I will go along with the consensus regardless if I disagree. I just want to see this forum succeed.
 

mgreenspan

Founding Member
Why not an engine conversion section? The LS is big now. There are kits for RRC, DI, Defender, and Nick is developing a DII kit. 2 years ago everybody was jutting over Td5s. 2 years before that, 300 tdis, 2 years before that 200 tdis. Next will be the Cummins. A whole section to one topic is a bit ridiculous.

The problem isn't a section for it. The problem is the way threads go on that site. That thread is unmanageable and impossible to scour for knowledge in an organized way.
 

javelinadave

Administrator
Staff member
Here is an inside view as to how Chris and I see the forum.
We saw the birth of this forum as hosting a party. We started off with an apartment party. We all fit and filled in the original forum categories and there wasn't any wasted space. We didn't start in a ranch house nor did we have those same 20 people in a sports arena. The apartment was just the right size.
We have now moving to a house with a yard. We added a Disco section and once the yard is filled we will look for a bigger house. Hopefully we end up renting out the Astrodome but that will take more guests and content. If an LS thread is started and morphs into needing its own space I promise it will get it. A "how to" section would also be nice but once again we need the content to fill it.
 

AdamSanta85

Well-known member
Why not an engine conversion section? The LS is big now. There are kits for RRC, DI, Defender, and Nick is developing a DII kit. 2 years ago everybody was jutting over Td5s. 2 years before that, 300 tdis, 2 years before that 200 tdis. Next will be the Cummins. A whole section to one topic is a bit ridiculous.

The problem isn't a section for it. The problem is the way threads go on that site. That thread is unmanageable and impossible to scour for knowledge in an organized way.

LS swaps are different that TD5/200/300 Rover swaps. Only Rover people care about Rover engines. LS swaps are going to draw in a different crowd. Cummins, I guess, but LS swaps are way more common in all makes and models then Cummins. There also isn't a Cummins swap thread with 253k views. If people wanted diesel engines, NAS trucks wouldn't be worth what they are.

The reason that thread is unmanageable is because there is no where to put the information. I.E. It's own section. If the DSource's new owners make an LS section, it is game over for that. First to market often wins in the tech space.

I just don't get the opposition. What is the negative outcome?
 

JohnsD90

Founding Member
LS swaps are different that TD5/200/300 Rover swaps. Only Rover people care about Rover engines. LS swaps are going to draw in a different crowd. Cummins, I guess, but LS swaps are way more common in all makes and models then Cummins. There also isn't a Cummins swap thread with 253k views. If people wanted diesel engines, NAS trucks wouldn't be worth what they are.

The reason that thread is unmanageable is because there is no where to put the information. I.E. It's own section.

I just don't get the opposition. What is the negative outcome?

It's a small forum still though, if we use that logic why not a section to Isuzu powered rovers, as there are move members on here with Isuzu powered rover than LS powered ones. :)

It's much easier to just appropriately label the thread, I know Chris can always update in the future if he sees the need for a separate sub forum.

I much prefer the less sub-section approach, less confusing to find that thread you read 2 days ago.
 

AdamSanta85

Well-known member
if we use that logic why not a section to Isuzu powered rovers, as there are move members on here with Isuzu powered rover than LS powered ones.

Show me an Isuzu thread with more then 253k views and ill agree.

Apparently I am the odd one out here. I guess ill just keep posting my LS questions on the DSource thread, since that is where the people with LS knowledge are, with no incentive to come here.

I'll let it go. Sorry.
 

4wdtravel

Well-known member
Just a thread is such a bad idea because there are so many separate sub topics, and things get mixed up and its not searchable. There are entire forums dedicated to LS swaps of all kinds of vehicles, let alone a sub section of a forum. Sheesh
 

JohnsD90

Founding Member
Show me an Isuzu thread with more then 253k views and ill agree.

Apparently I am the odd one out here. I guess ill just keep posting my LS questions on the DSource thread, since that is where the people with LS knowledge are, with no incentive to come here.

I'll let it go. Sorry.

I can't, the forum that caters to most Isuzu Rover owners has too many sub-forums and their owners are split between the isuzu section and the military vehicle section. So the relevant threads are not seen by all parties.
 

chris snell

Administrator
Callsign: NW5W
Staff member
We might do an engine swap forum. It's kind of hard to make an argument for a separate forum when there's not even one single organic thread on the topic here.
 

chris snell

Administrator
Callsign: NW5W
Staff member
Chris, could this be a chicken-and-egg situation?

It might. To be honest, I don't know a thing about the swap because it's just not interesting to me. Our viewpoint (Dave and me) is that we don't want ghost town sections on the board. We need more activity here. I'm okay with trying out a LS section but it doesn't take off, it's going to get merged back into the other tech sections. Need to talk to Dave first, though.
 
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