New Defender, 2020

RBBailey

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...I'm getting confused...

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MountainD

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I battle seeing street lights and I struggle with mileage. I keep asking myself if I can learn to love the swept back design since it aids in both those things! ... unfortunately the answer is no. It looks like the ford Flex as someone else pointed out...
 

RBBailey

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I’m going to back off just a tiny bit on being too judgmental on it because I’m pretty sure that photo is a mock-up from pre-prototype builds. In other words, it is a real model of the new Defender, but not an actual vehicle coming off some assembly line. I’d even bet it’s the same thing that we got the leaked dash photo from they turns out to have been real, but obviously not the real production version of the dash.

Once it is fully revealed we will see something very much like this, but I bet it will actually look real. Those headlights don’t even look real. And the engine bay is just odd. And the various grills aren’t even put together.
 

MountainD

Technical Excellence Contributor
Even so... What I LIKE about the Bronco/Defender/G-Wagon is the boxy look. It appeals to me. In much the same way that the laid back style of the Countach appeals to me but as a sports car.

I know I can't have my cake and eat it too, but I will take a little too boxy over a little too laid back 10/10 times when it comes to my trucks/Rovers.
 

RBBailey

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Boxy is good, but I think fake boxy is as bad as the bubble craze. The thing I like about the boxy Volvos, Land Rovers, GWagens, and such is that they are boxy as a matter of course. With the Defender especially, it's boxy because it utilizes every inch of interior cargo room possible, and because it wants to be cheap and effective. It's machine art, or art that followed function. It became an icon because of that shape, and they are abandoning it in favor of the great god EPA, and his demon Wind Tunnel.
 

rocky

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i like boxy to. It's practical. Perhaps that's why despite all it's rust after 248k miles, I can't seem to dump my old 2005 Honda Pilot.
 

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FlyersFan76

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Good lord no. They don't want videos of it stuck.

lol

I have never been to that place but I did wheel at Windrock. I did ok for a very novice, very timid driver of an unlocked Hummer. Not sure that the new Defender would be able to with a similar skill set.
 

RBBailey

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They are so strange about this type of stuff.... we've already seen it at it's first destination in New York, and going off road in what looks like these same locations (these look to be photos from the same shoot) from officially released photos but on terrain that looked at least fun. Then they had them in Moab. Now they are saying this is the first? Did someone get fired and whoever is taking their place just didn't know? So odd.

And in their own photos, they are saying this is muddy, woody terrain that is going to challenge the vehicle. If that's what LR is actually telling us will be the challenge, that's pathetic.

As far as capabilities, whatever the LR4 could do, we have to assume this is as good. And for an unmodified vehicle, the LR3/4 were pretty good.
 

rocky

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It's the electronics that concern me long term. My 249k Honda has cranky electronics. Even the 14cux is known to fail.
 
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