New Defender, 2020
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WreckITFrank
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Camo is off. Looks good but we’ll have to see on the price. Seems a tad high...
For $60k, this is what you get in SA. I guess LR is leaving that space wide open for now. At some point you have to assume they will enter that market.
(via Jalopnik)
xplorutah
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If ONLY I could get one of those here. Supposedly they are discontinuing the LC in the US. The 70 gets a redesign for 2022, one can only hope they make it compliant for here, and dont change too much!
WreckITFrank
Technical Excellence Contributor
Maybe LR is the ultimate troll and when we wake up it will be Defender Christmas.
The floating pillar in the rear sides is sort of interesting, and it seems to serve a purpose for the stupid ladder and saddle bags, but it is going to make the 90 a vehicle that will never sell. That thing is right in the side window view of the rear passengers, and although you don't buy a SWB two-door to carry rear passengers, I predict there are going to be quite a few people who will not buy the car for that one reason.
I've got a lot to like here, and a lot of very specific things that I just don't like/understand. It seems that they have taken the off-road capabilities seriously this time -- a factory rear locking diff on a Land Rover? We should applaud that. It looks like they might actually bring diesel to the USA? We should applaud that.
Overall, I think it may be a success. I'm worried about the interior options. Is the center cubby space really the only neat feature they have? Is there other storage? Can I plug in my phone without having a cord laying across from the center console to the cubby? Are there storage areas under the seats? Can I remove the seats easily? Why can't my rear passengers be allowed to look out the side window? Is that thing removable? Can I order a 90 without that pillar? Will the hybrid be available in the USA?
I hope the big reveal will answer some of those questions. I think the interior options really will be a big thing to sell or not sell the vehicle to the target audience. The average non-Rover owner will be looking at things like the Defender, the Lexus, Toyota, even the Element and Rivian; and the experience of sitting in, and using the vehicle with smart options will make or break the sale for people who are on the fence.
In the end, if it turns out to be reliable, I may be in the market for a certified used one around the year 2024 or so. I might feel like I've had my fun with the Defender by then, enough to trade it for this new Discovery. I'll always have the Series, and the LWB is just waiting for me to get around to putting it back on the road. Maybe the Newfender is a good option for a daily/overlander.
I've got a lot to like here, and a lot of very specific things that I just don't like/understand. It seems that they have taken the off-road capabilities seriously this time -- a factory rear locking diff on a Land Rover? We should applaud that. It looks like they might actually bring diesel to the USA? We should applaud that.
Overall, I think it may be a success. I'm worried about the interior options. Is the center cubby space really the only neat feature they have? Is there other storage? Can I plug in my phone without having a cord laying across from the center console to the cubby? Are there storage areas under the seats? Can I remove the seats easily? Why can't my rear passengers be allowed to look out the side window? Is that thing removable? Can I order a 90 without that pillar? Will the hybrid be available in the USA?
I hope the big reveal will answer some of those questions. I think the interior options really will be a big thing to sell or not sell the vehicle to the target audience. The average non-Rover owner will be looking at things like the Defender, the Lexus, Toyota, even the Element and Rivian; and the experience of sitting in, and using the vehicle with smart options will make or break the sale for people who are on the fence.
In the end, if it turns out to be reliable, I may be in the market for a certified used one around the year 2024 or so. I might feel like I've had my fun with the Defender by then, enough to trade it for this new Discovery. I'll always have the Series, and the LWB is just waiting for me to get around to putting it back on the road. Maybe the Newfender is a good option for a daily/overlander.
WreckITFrank
Technical Excellence Contributor
Starting price ($50k) is better than the translated $62kk. Accessories are cool. Doubtful at that price any farmers will be buying them.
"There will be over 170 accessories available when the Defender launches (and that’s before the aftermarket gets involved), with four pre-set packs.
Land Rover Defender 2020MY
These aren’t decals and wheel caps, either. The Explorer Pack adds a raised air intake, a roof rack, and super-neat side gear carriers, which look like saddle bags that drape over the rear side windows. Customers that need a bit more capability can add roof ladder and additional body protection. The Adventure Pack features a 6.5-liter water reservoir with a hose and shower attachment, an air compressor, and side-mounted carriers. The Country Pack adds interior storage partitions and a rinse system, while the Urban Pack focuses mainly on aesthetics and includes a cover for the spare wheel. This stuff is available independently and in addition to an available roof-top tent and front winch. As a blank canvas for overlanders, the Defender is something to be excited about.
The five-door Defender 110 will hit the U.S. market in Spring 2020 with a starting price of $49,900"
"There will be over 170 accessories available when the Defender launches (and that’s before the aftermarket gets involved), with four pre-set packs.
Land Rover Defender 2020MY
These aren’t decals and wheel caps, either. The Explorer Pack adds a raised air intake, a roof rack, and super-neat side gear carriers, which look like saddle bags that drape over the rear side windows. Customers that need a bit more capability can add roof ladder and additional body protection. The Adventure Pack features a 6.5-liter water reservoir with a hose and shower attachment, an air compressor, and side-mounted carriers. The Country Pack adds interior storage partitions and a rinse system, while the Urban Pack focuses mainly on aesthetics and includes a cover for the spare wheel. This stuff is available independently and in addition to an available roof-top tent and front winch. As a blank canvas for overlanders, the Defender is something to be excited about.
The five-door Defender 110 will hit the U.S. market in Spring 2020 with a starting price of $49,900"
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UnfrozenCaveman
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That $80k will buy my fuel for the rest of my life.
For the Real Land Rovers that I already own.
Can't imagine that I need a new one.
KAA, professional curmudgeon
For the Real Land Rovers that I already own.
Can't imagine that I need a new one.
KAA, professional curmudgeon
UnfrozenCaveman
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Just looked at the "build it" LRUSA pages...no diesel?
bearskinrug
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“Build it” disclaimer says dealer charges may apply for installation with these packs. I wonder if some of the equipment might come a la cart.
1of40
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The lightbulb turned on for me today when watching one of the videos. They were showing the various settings and buttons and mentioned that it has 85 ecu’s and x# of cameras that do all the work, then stated “it will be fun to drive”. That’s when I realized this really is the right vehicle for today’s LR consumer because the folks that are more likely to throw $70-80k at the new D110 well equipped grew up in this service-based society/economy and more driven for tech to do the work and willing to pay for it. I still don’t mind rolling my own windows and spotting for someone on a trail so I’m not likely to buy one but I do admire the effort put into the platform and hope it does well.
WreckITFrank
Technical Excellence Contributor
My 2015 diesel grand Cherokee had an appalling (to me) sticker of 61k. Didn't pay near that, but this defender is in that same class IMO. My jeep is a far cry from one 20 years ago (plastic everything), and so is this new defender from the old. I'd buy it though, off lease, in a few years to replace my grand Cherokee, not my 91 defender. Lose the badge, leave the legacy at the door, and this is the D5 diesel I couldn't love. Also safeIy take my wife and infant to trader joes on the weekend and *maybe tow my 91 to rausch creek? (Where's the diesel) I really do hate the back end most of all, but not as much as the D5.
Interesting that there's no diesel.