Cummins Repower ISF 2.8 for Defenders

bkeef

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I have a 2.8 to install in a 110. The truck is a 200 tdi/lt77

Im going back with ax-15/ or nv3550 Looking for some smart folks to determine which would be best with this motor and cant decide if we need to swap transfer case.

Im not doing any serious wheeling. Hoping to make first gear useful amd not autoshift to second

The 200 tdi runs wheel but can guess the 2.8 is going to be a big change
 

RBBailey

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I can figure out total some time, but off the top of my head, as far as a straight conversion from V8 to 300Tdi is concerned, I spent about $6500. I got a good deal on the engine and transmission, and I've ended up spending a lot more than that on all the other stuff I did at the same time.

I drove a Cummings powered 110, and it does seem to have better power than 300Tdi, but hard to know.
 

Uncle Douglas

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I drove a Cummings powered 110, and it does seem to have better power than 300Tdi, but hard to know.

Which Cummins ?

Sent the 2.8 Cummins flywheel out to be machined to accept a flex plate. The fellow we are building this truck for wants an automatic. We have decided on the 6L80e six speed auto that gets its throttle position and torque readings via the canbus harness and shifts accordingly. The shifting is adjustable via a programmable controller. The Cummins gear ratio calculator looks great with 4:10 gears and 35 inch tires and a 1.2 transfercase. The suspension under the truck will be fairly trick as well with RTE progressive springs, remote res shocks, cranked arms, and hydraulic bump stops. The exterior will be getting a full SD external cage ordered as part of Erik's group buy.
 

mgreenspan

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Doug,

Can't you make your website better or have some kids take pictures and update the work you do bi-monthly? Or do you at least have Instagram? Everything you post about buildwise makes me want to see pictures.
 

rovercolorado

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Doug,

Can't you make your website better or how some kids to take pictures and update the work you do bi-monthly? Or do you at least have Instagram? Everything you post about buildwise makes me want to see pictures.

I second that! Build thread with pictures is always a must for something so new. :D
 

chris snell

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Would love to see a build thread here in the new ISF2.8 section!

Who's going to be the first?
 

Uncle Douglas

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Doug,

Can't you make your website better or have some kids take pictures and update the work you do bi-monthly? Everything you post about buildwise makes me want to see pictures.

Sorry, I haven't touched that website since I had to drop "rover" from my co name back whenever it was that Rover's atty's sent me a nastygram saying I was confusing their customers, five plus years ago. I know it sucks but haven't had the time or need to do anything about it.
 

rocky

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RBBailey

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I don't understand how they can have TV shows and YouTube vids for months featuring other installations (Jeeps, Rover/Jeep hybrid, IH) but installing in a regular old Rover is not allowed?
Please explain

Probably because Cummings have not got permission from Rover to make it a commercial venture. Can't stop them from modding a Rover how they want, but Rover can stop them from advertising about how great it would be to not have a Rover engine in your Rover.
 

Uncle Douglas

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Probably because Cummings have not got permission from Rover to make it a commercial venture. Can't stop them from modding a Rover how they want, but Rover can stop them from advertising about how great it would be to not have a Rover engine in your Rover.

Nothing to do with Land Rover or any other make for that matter. Once you own a vehicle the manufacturer has no say in what you do to it other than refusing to honor their warranty.

There are three of us on this forum with these engines and because these are beta or test engines we have had to sign non disclosure agreements.

Cummins approved the video's mentioned above, and reserve the right to do so on anything we do.
 

RBBailey

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I'm sure you're right. Logically, it's about getting the kit right for the car as a single piece that can be sold, before it's brought to market. I was just speculating on why the Rover guys have the NDAs, but not others; wondering what might be on the other end of what you see on the paper you have. ...that is, knowing how LRNA acts about their branding.

Remember how they were helping the Feds. in the confiscation cases? I tend to think they have been zealous about protecting the "Defender" namesake as a time capsule of what-it-is-is-what-it-was-and-could-never-be-different (including ONLY the ones we personally sold from our dealership, and no others!) that's why we are making a brand new one for you in 2012... 2015... 2017...... DANGIT! Don't put a new engine in it! It's not good enough for a new engine! We shall be making all the Defenders good from now on, and you will buy it!

But really. Keep us up to date as much as you can; as I observed, the 2.8 (not one of these new ones) I drove seemed like a good thing for a Defender. And what's good for the Defender is good for the world.
 

rocky

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I would assume that Cummins is taking the media control of this project very carefully. Adverse publicity can so easily screw up anything.

After all, whether its tube sox or Defenders, there is alot of prototyping going on. I would be very surprised if the Jeep conversions didn't have NDAs during the same phase and the You tube videos we got to see some time ago were not carefully edited.
 

chris snell

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Probably because Cummings have not got permission from Rover to make it a commercial venture. Can't stop them from modding a Rover how they want, but Rover can stop them from advertising about how great it would be to not have a Rover engine in your Rover.

How 'bout those Cummings motors!

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There's no 'g' in Cummins. ;)
 

ersatzknarf

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The Cummins gear ratio calculator looks great with 4:10 gears and 35 inch tires and a 1.2 transfercase.

Very glad to read this - thanks :)

Had a look for the calculator. Is it a downloadable program ?

May I ask what kind of revs the calculator is showing and is there a happy place for the R2.8 ?

Is the rear axle a Sals or ? Anything special for the front ?
 
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