Rivian sighting

mitherial

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^ "Mild" or "medium" hybrids make inherent sense if you have a short commute, a garage with an available bay (not stuffed with old Land Rovers like mine), and reasonably low electricity prices--only burn gas for long trips. Full electrics really should just be "rich person's toys" at the current state of technology.
 

saetaes

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"Mild" or "medium" hybrids make inherent sense if you have a short commute

As far as I can tell "mild" hybrid is a greenwashing term that Land Rover and probably others are doing around what's effectively their start-stop technology. It might show some minor MPG gains, but it's not a true hybrid like the classic Prius was. In my opinion, the only hybrid worth buying is a plug-in hybrid, which tend to have pretty decent electric-only range - the 2022+ Volvo XC90 can do about 30 all-electric miles; 2019-2021 Range Rover is in the 20s, with the 2022+ Range Rover doing something like 50.

We've had a Tesla Model X for the last 3 years, and judging it only on practical driving (not build quality, aesthetics, or "why doesn't my $100K car have rain-sensing wipers"-type concerns), it's actually pretty fantastic. My commute into the office is about 8 miles each way, but in an urban area. I find the experience of being in an electric car in heavy city traffic much nicer than in a gas car - it's silent, has an excellent infotainment system, and enough "nannies" to keep me from accidentally hitting the vehicles and people around me when I lose focus. It's great around town and for running errands, and it's awesome on the highway too, though even with Tesla's Supercharger network, a 2-hour drive can sometimes turn into a 2.5 hour drive if you don't plan your charging carefully.

We have an old Toyota SUV that's due for replacement, and if we didn't have the Tesla, I'd get a Rivian. I don't need a truck 99.99% of the time, but I like the look of the R1T. I wouldn't kick the R1S out of bed either, though it's a little more square than I prefer. The reviews I've seen of both seem to indicate that they're pretty great feature- and quality-wise, though the charging networks aren't as mature as Tesla's. So, we're probably going to get a plug-in hybrid. That way, I can charge it at home to capture some of that all-electric vibe during my work commute, and then it'll be predictable during any length road trip. Seems like an all-out win for my use case. I'd been eyeing the Volvo, but I've somehow convinced myself that a low-mile certified ~2020 Range Rover PHEV is the better deal in terms of quality and comfort...I'm sure I'll regret that once it breaks, though.
 

erover82

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Saw this today and did a double take.

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Apparently, I'm out of the loop on Jeeps (fine with me) and their 4xe. However, it's an electric vehicle that doesn't look like one.

That is, until I saw what they did to the front.

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Tron?
 

Baldewin

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This one is in my driveway everyday and has made an appearance with the SoCal Rover Club.
 

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rocky

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Seeing Rivian pick ups is easy. Seen one Rivian SUV and many of their Amazon vans.
Had the electric car discussion with my three brothers yesterday. One already has a Tesla. Another needs to replace his Citroen. They’re all in England where Electric sales are around 17% of new car sales. Distances driven are much shorter than in the US. The native AC power is 240v making higher powered charging much easier. Over there the electric car pitch is much easier. Living in London as he does Electric cars are preferred. Hybrids are almost dead.

Suspect he’ll get an MG electric car.

 

saetaes

Member
Apparently, I'm out of the loop on Jeeps (fine with me) and their 4xe. However, it's an electric vehicle that doesn't look like one.

That is, until I saw what they did to the front.

The Wrangler looks identical to the gas/diesel one, modulo the addition of some blue accents on tow hooks.

This one is in my driveway everyday and has made an appearance with the SoCal Rover Club.

Curious to know what you think of it? Anything you wish was different/better about it? Charging-wise, I've heard Electrify America in the Northeast is so-so, but maybe it's better in SoCal? Can you make a reasonably long road trip using it?
 

Baldewin

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Curious to know what you think of it? Anything you wish was different/better about it? Charging-wise, I've heard Electrify America in the Northeast is so-so, but maybe it's better in SoCal? Can you make a reasonably long road trip using it?
I love it but I have to say it's been a few years since I've had a new vehicle. A tad more range as I originally ordered the 400 mile platform but felt Rivian had no plans or ability to produce it in the near term so I opted for the standard battery (300 mile). Charging has not been a problem as I'm retired and mainly charge at home (25mi/hr). I've only used public chargers a handful of times and that has not been an issue. Charging does take more time and you definitely have to look into your route in advance. Have not made a serious road trip in it yet but I don't foresee any issues. 700 mi round trip has been the most to date with no issues.
 
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