Grenadier
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Andrew
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I noticed Ineos has not yet received emissions certification from CARB. At least, there is not yet a publicly available executive order document. It might show up listed under BMW. For example, the Toyota Supra with the B58 (engine family RBMXV03.0B5X) is listed under BMW A‑008‑0596. There is also nothing listed on the EPA website, but I also couldn't find documents for the 2024 BMWs either. I sent the EPA an email.
Links:
ww2.arb.ca.gov
iaspub.epa.gov
Links:
New Vehicle and Engine Certification: Executive Orders for MY2024 Passenger Cars, Light-Duty Trucks, and Chassis Certified Medium-Duty Vehicles | California Air Resources Board
The New Vehicle and Engine Certification Program is responsible for the certification of new engines, vehicles, powertrains, aerodynamic devices and other new certifications. Vehicles and engines may be sold and otherwise produced in California only if approved by Executive Order (EO) after...
Basic Search | Document Index System | US EPA
WreckITFrank
Technical Excellence Contributor
all set? ....check the video at around 1:20, see the transcript....I noticed Ineos has not yet received emissions certification from CARB. At least, there is not yet a publicly available executive order document. It might show up listed under BMW. For example, the Toyota Supra with the B58 (engine family RBMXV03.0B5X) is listed under BMW A‑008‑0596. There is also nothing listed on the EPA website, but I also couldn't find documents for the 2024 BMWs either. I sent the EPA an email.
Links:
New Vehicle and Engine Certification: Executive Orders for MY2024 Passenger Cars, Light-Duty Trucks, and Chassis Certified Medium-Duty Vehicles | California Air Resources Board
The New Vehicle and Engine Certification Program is responsible for the certification of new engines, vehicles, powertrains, aerodynamic devices and other new certifications. Vehicles and engines may be sold and otherwise produced in California only if approved by Executive Order (EO) after...Basic Search | Document Index System | US EPA
Answering Your Questions
evilfij
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CARB are shitheads.
TravelinLight
Well-known member
The Colorado Dealer sent 2 Pint Glasses to their preorder customers. It was a nice touch to the start of the program.
Andrew
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They claim what they care about is vehicle emissions, but they don't really. It's about power/control and money. A big bureaucratic mess.
TravelinLight
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I have my real test drive scheduled for the Saturday after Thanksgiving. My friend went already and said it was everything he expected. Looking forward to the test drive.
Andrew
Well-known member
The CARB EOs are live. Certified for 2023 and 2024 model years. Quartermaster pickup also certified for 2024 model year.
2023
A‑518‑0001
A‑518‑0001‑1
2024
A‑518‑0002
The EPA's Document Index System (DIS) now shows Ineos Automotive Ltd. in the list of manufacturers, but no documents show up in search yet.
One thing I found interesting is that the OBD system appears to function better than BMWs (and the Toyota Supra) with the B58. It got through certification with OBD status as partial whereas BMW had too many deficiencies and has to pay fines for each vehicle sold. According to this document, more than 2 deficiencies results in fines and consideration is given for "effort to comply." Apparently BMW has no desire to comply. lol
2023
A‑518‑0001
A‑518‑0001‑1
2024
A‑518‑0002
The EPA's Document Index System (DIS) now shows Ineos Automotive Ltd. in the list of manufacturers, but no documents show up in search yet.
One thing I found interesting is that the OBD system appears to function better than BMWs (and the Toyota Supra) with the B58. It got through certification with OBD status as partial whereas BMW had too many deficiencies and has to pay fines for each vehicle sold. According to this document, more than 2 deficiencies results in fines and consideration is given for "effort to comply." Apparently BMW has no desire to comply. lol
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Wow that’s quick! Mine arrived on the 6th and I was told “within a month” (my dealer is in High Point NC). I did a test drive in Plano and the guys were great.
What were your respective production months?
Mine is October production and it was suggested as Jan/Feb arrival.
rocky
NAS-ROW Addict
Don't hold your breath on the time line. With the holiday coming up next week, early December has a higher probability. But thats better than anyone whose truck arrives in the middle of December with all Christmas, New Year etc stopping transportation.
SARTech
Well-known member
My Grenadier is state side and was scheduled for delivery soon, before Christmass, but.... Apparently there was a recall on it and it was shipped out before the recall could be addressed. The dealer is telling me that Ineos doesn't want to deliver a vehicle with a recall due so they have issued me a new VIN and supposedly expediting a new rig for me. Im not at all upset about this and would much rather get a good machine than one that has issues especially because I'm 9-10 hours away from the dealer. Its all good, plus my money sitting in the bank is finally making good interest.
The website is completely inaccurate for my truck. Doesn’t even show it’s in production but it landed in the US on Nov 6th. Got a call from the dealer about a week later confirming my accessories. I put the deposit down the first day you could 2 years ago and the pre-order also the first day you could a couple of months ago. Expecting to get it around Thanksgiving based off the info on the Grenadier forum and dealer communication.
