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RBBailey

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This is not how I wanted the first trip in the Defender to end:
 

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javelinadave

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RBBailey

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We were coming back to Portland area from Seattle last evening when it died at 60 mph, and I was able to put it down between two freeways as they merge. I could not safely get out to attempt any kind of fix.

The tow driver simply put us on the flatbed and drove off. The kids thought it was great fun. Like Disneyland, they said.

We were only 270 miles into this tank of gas, but I couldn't shake the feeling that I had just run out of fuel. The gauge has been accurate the last two fill ups, and I could hear fuel in the tank. So I checked the IP wire and solenoid. Then checked to see that fuel was flowing from the filter. After that little bleed, the truck started right up!

So I let it run a bit, circled the lot, and it kept acting like it was going to die. At this point I limped to the next station and topped it off. The gauge had been right on the money, and after the top off, the truck ran fine. So we followed my brother to the cabin cruiser he has at a marina in Olympia, and camped there for the night. It was already two hours past our original ETA, but we were still 150 miles from home.

Today, it started and ran like normal all the way home.

I believe there must be air getting sucked into the line from the fuel tank when it gets down to about 1/4 tank. Any thoughts?
 

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Napalm00

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Air in line, clogged filter or dying lift pump?

Edit also check that the injector spill rail and high-pressure fittings are secure
 

Uncle Douglas

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My diesel f250 does the exact same thing. I just fill it back up when it gets to a 1/3 of a tank. Problem is in the tank and in my case its not worth pursuing.
 

DefendersNW

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inlet pipe may be bent or broken - loss of vacuum at that point.

This explains why we didn't see you at the shop this week...
 

rocky

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Bet you wont try going that far on one tank again!

Totally died or just limping down on power?
 

RBBailey

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inlet pipe may be bent or broken - loss of vacuum at that point.

This explains why we didn't see you at the shop this week...

On Saturday, we simply got a late start, and I didn't see your message till on the road.

Then we ended up taking the later ferry back from Victoria, so there was no way we could stop. Although, if we were a bit closer... I know where I'd have had it towed!
 

RBBailey

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My diesel f250 does the exact same thing. I just fill it back up when it gets to a 1/3 of a tank. Problem is in the tank and in my case its not worth pursuing.

I think this is actually in the tank. And for now I'm just going to leave it and fill up whenever I get down to about 3/8 full. I'm more interested in getting some other things figured out before I go about dealing with pulling the tank out -- which is what I have to do, right? Really no other way to change the pump on these, right?
 

Uncle Douglas

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Not sure how yours is setup but there should just be a pickup tube (no pump) in the tank with the fuel gauge sender, its on the side of the tank on the left side held in with a twist ring.
 

RBBailey

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Yeah, I just confirmed my confusion on this, because I had looked at this earlier -- I have no pick up hose on the side. Only the wires for the sender.
 

Napalm00

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My truck was a converted TDI. When they did the conversion they swapped the pickup for the return pipe in the top. They both take and drop from the same location so possibly your pick up is at the top of the tank. It would be visible from the side near the gas filler neck. Looking between the tank and the body.

If done correctly your tank should have a filler, a vent line, a pick up line, and a return line.
 

RBBailey

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I was thinking that something might have changed when the engine was put in. But the area around the sender on the side, looks untouched. I'm going to be investigating further when I get the chance.
 

nas90tdi

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The Saudi 110's came with a V-8 ,correct?
If so, your pickup tube is probably on top of the tank. That was the fuel pump location on the V-8 tanks. Pretty common to just modify that instead of replacing the tank when doing the TDI swap. My '95 NAS is the same way. I kept my original tank and modified the fuel pump location.
 
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