Alive Tuning Comfort springs

wicks

Active member
Is anyone here running the Alive Tuning comfort springs on their 90? I am trying to figure out if I can make my 94 ST smoothing riding, else I may give up on my lifelong Landie addiction and get rid of all my rovers in favor of a g wagon.
 

erover82

Well-known member
IMO shocks, suspension geometry, and bushings make a larger difference. Many aftermarket shocks are stiffer for increased load handling. Any lift will steepen control arm angles and transfer more vibration into the cabin. Many polyurethane bushings are stiffer than rubber and will do the same. That said, the formula of the Defender's design was to prioritize utility, capability, and simplicity over all else, including comfort.
 

wicks

Active member
Yes I'm aware of all of that. Been owning and operating Landies for 39 years. Everything is original on my 90. Looking for feedback of making susp more compliant, smoother riding.
 

erover82

Well-known member
Understood. What tires are you running? Makes a big difference in such light small trucks. If you're set on MTs, Pirelli makes a C rated MT that could save you around 7 lbs unsprung weight per tire. Switching to alloy wheels could save more. There are also many P rated ATs in 265/75R16 that would save weight and provide an even more compliant ride.
 
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erover82

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Looking for feedback of making susp more compliant, smoother riding.

If you're looking to ignore all the factors that actually make the largest difference, then by all means: http://red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html

Look at the spring rate for your 90, then pick some springs with less rate. In my experience a softer coil of equal ride height results in a slightly less NVH but relatively more flex and body roll.
 

KW1985def110

Well-known member
There are a couple companies that make air ride suspension systems for Defenders. Quick google search will get you options
 

wicks

Active member
Have seen that and I think it must be quite amazing, but would rather just fit softer springs than add a whole air system...
 

rocky

NAS-ROW Addict
Never heard of the company you mention.

With the link to genuine springs above, you see spring rate, the load needed to compress the spring by an inch.

Go ask Alive for the comparable Eibach numbers.
 

Mirrajumper

Well-known member
If you're looking to ignore all the factors that actually make the largest difference, then by all means: http://red90.ca/rovers/springinfo.html

Look at the spring rate for your 90, then pick some springs with less rate. In my experience a softer coil of equal ride height results in a slightly less NVH but relatively more flex and body ro TV
Never heard of the company you mention.

With the link to genuine springs above, you see spring rate, the load needed to compress the spring by an inch.

Go ask Alive for the comparable Eibach numbers.
With standard springs and revalved shocks, it’s a game changer. Replace your worn out bushings/ get rid of any poly bushings and keep it simple. What shocks do you want to run with the Alive springs, what tires are you running and their date codes? Rock hard older tires and worn bushings are true misery on these trucks. Have fun and post up what you end up doing! Enjoy.
 

KND

Well-known member
I have a Japanese D90 NAS with stock spring, honestly it's way better ride than my G-wagon and BMW X5, both feel like driving SUV rather than a car. You won't notice much different if you are going to get a G-Wagon.
 

jymmiejamz

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I know you don’t want to hear this, but replacing all of the suspension bushings, steering links, and shocks are going to make more of a difference than any springs will.
 

Angus

Well-known member
When I put 6 bags of horse feed in the back, mine rides like a limousine even with OME shocks and springs. Not great on acceleration, but there is something to be said for mass dampening.
 

wicks

Active member
6 bags of horse feed is the best advice yet. :) haha. The bushings are all original and perfect (garage queen 20k mile truck), the tires are new BFGs, the shocks are new OE. The main difference with the Alive springs is they are progressive. Guess they haven't sold much stateside yet, but people are using them a lot RoW. I will be fitting them and will report back...
 

Mirrajumper

Well-known member
Just to be clear, these are rebranded eibach brand springs that “ lower your suspension by 1.0-1.5 inches”. That’s the most ridiculous thing you can do to these trucks. Your springs give you baseline ride height, your SHOCKS control the compression and rebound qualities.
How am I going to take my defender to the beach, on the farm or on the road with the truck lowered! You will need bigger sway bars to control body roll and the list goes on. Your so called progressive springs will coil bind and make a tat tat noise over bumps. And you will be banging on your bump stops.
**By all means, install what you want.** With all
New factory rubber bushings, bilstein or ohlins or fox shocks and standard 7.5 x 16 XZL a defender can do most things better and more comfortable than most trucks.
 
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wicks

Active member
Who are you writing all that to? lol. I am not installing lowering springs - standard ride height version. The progressive springs have sleeves to prevent that tat tat you speak of as well.
 

Mirrajumper

Well-known member
The sleeves will cause coil binding top and bottom and you will have very little suspension travel. It’s your truck, have fun!
 

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rocky

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Stock LR springs with Bilsteins gave me the best ride on my truck. The bushings may be original but rubber degrades and fails.

You seems to be set on ignoring the advice here and buying an unknown set up. I hope I’m wrong in saying that but it’s the vibe I’m getting,
 
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