1991 200TDI to R2.8--couple remaining questions
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dkemm
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Agreed! Now the waiting game.....only a little less painful than seeing the credit card statement....
theShaytoon
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I am in the middle of the swap. LHD Cummins R2.8 w/ AC, mated to the ZF22/24, and a LT230 (1.2).
If you have not ordered the Engine mounts from Quick Draw... go do it right now. It will save you days.
I purchased the Cummins AC compressor from Quickdraw, and it seems to fit in with the low mount bracket that is installed on the engine. It does have to be mounted with the hoses pointed down, but it can be modified for other mounting options.
The "Funniest" challenge so far has been taking the engine out of the crate. If you think you are going to be able to just lift it off the crate...well there might be more to it. You can't get the engine hoist legs under the engine, and lifting 900lb crate 10" to stuff bricks under it is tricky. Note: I am alone; with very limited tools. A harbor freight engine hoist, a couple of floor jacks, and I borrowed a transmission jack from my neighbor.
I can't see how the engine can move forward 2 inches and clear the Steering Box. I am assuming you will have it hovering over the steering box. My transfer case lined up in the original spot.
Everything else has been pretty easy. A special thanks to @Norton for talking me off the bridge last week.
OH...pics are on Instagram.
If you have not ordered the Engine mounts from Quick Draw... go do it right now. It will save you days.
I purchased the Cummins AC compressor from Quickdraw, and it seems to fit in with the low mount bracket that is installed on the engine. It does have to be mounted with the hoses pointed down, but it can be modified for other mounting options.
The "Funniest" challenge so far has been taking the engine out of the crate. If you think you are going to be able to just lift it off the crate...well there might be more to it. You can't get the engine hoist legs under the engine, and lifting 900lb crate 10" to stuff bricks under it is tricky. Note: I am alone; with very limited tools. A harbor freight engine hoist, a couple of floor jacks, and I borrowed a transmission jack from my neighbor.
I can't see how the engine can move forward 2 inches and clear the Steering Box. I am assuming you will have it hovering over the steering box. My transfer case lined up in the original spot.
Everything else has been pretty easy. A special thanks to @Norton for talking me off the bridge last week.
OH...pics are on Instagram.
dkemm
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Shay toon, what is your Instagram?
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Norton
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Ha! Happy to share info anytime if it saves someone else some time and frustration.
Looking forward to hearing how yours turns out.
MountainD
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I ordered everything from Quickdraw at the same time, including engine mounts. We will see when I get them--ordered in late March.
By 2" forward, I meant I was mounting it 2" forward from the original LT77/LT230 mounts into the R380/LT230 mount positions. That way the engine clears the bulkhead---it will be further back from the steering box than yours so no clearance issues. May even be able to fit the mechanical fan which would be my preference due to the drastic cooling ability over the electric fans.
I just ordered an LT230 from Ashcroft, sleeved with the HD cross pin. I have the Stumpy HD new in crate in the garage and I already have a new front cover for spin on filter and some other goodies. I am still, slowly, rebuilding the axles--have a front in assembly with GBR CV's and TruTrac all set up in the diff and I am in disassembly on the Sals and I have a Detroit that I will set up in that one and some HD 1/2 shafts coming from Ashcroft as well. 3.5 weeks till that is ready so I may have all the stuff around the same time... accept who knows on my Allisport shit--they don't even tell me how long it is going to take. It has been 3 months on that so far... so much for 8-10 weeks...
I am stopping worrying about it. The longer it takes, the more trouble I get into upgrading stuff...
Napalm00
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when you get your lt230 make sure to do a good inspection when you receive it. Mine came with a cracked and leaking rear output, Ashcroft wouldn't do anything for me .
im going to stop using them entirely, the quality has gotten poor. Im switching over to winchester gears
im going to stop using them entirely, the quality has gotten poor. Im switching over to winchester gears
MountainD
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I tried them. But on ordering I got unable to deliver to your country:
Might still have worked out if they got back to me but, as most UK vendors, they suck at communication. I have had just the opposite experience with my 18 years of dealing with Dave at Ashcroft. I have had nothing but good experiences from them. I have no comparison with Winchester other than they seemingly won't deliver to the USA.
I’ve had a couple of Ashcroft LT230s leak out of the box.
MountainD
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That’s a bummer to hear— where did they leak?
WreckITFrank
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FWIW, I recently got a quote from Winchester and they are good to go with shipping to the US. Just had to inquire. I hit them just out of curiosity and based on @Napalm00 reco
Standard R380 for V8: £800
Heavy Duty R380 (HD Casing and larger bearings): £1050
V8 5th Gears Upgrade: £100
Core: £200
Freight: £340 via DHL
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Standard R380 for V8: £800
Heavy Duty R380 (HD Casing and larger bearings): £1050
V8 5th Gears Upgrade: £100
Core: £200
Freight: £340 via DHL
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dkemm
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Have you received any updates from Quickdraw yet? I ordered mine March 12....last I heard was Late June, early July (most likely July).
I also ordered a HD LT230 from Ashcroft...that arrived mid may....now I am also getting in trouble upgrading stuff... I just picked up a 300tdi wing (intake on RH side) to feed the cummins.
on a side note - I have learned all about the J19...and have that running well now (as well as 172K engine can run)...
I have been upgrading interior with Leather (steering wheel, cubby, grab handle, brake handle), custom knobs.
I was holding off on dash electrics upgrade until engine went in...might have to start that soon - got a 300tdi blade fuse box to replace the glass fuses - will allow for additional fused items.
the other desire on my list is axle upgrades - add ashcroft ATB and new axles....but I better save my money for the misc parts in the engine compartment.
MountainD
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No update from Quickdraw since 5/11. I asked about a week or two ago but if they haven’t responded by now…. It’d be nice to know as I’m trying to plan some vacation in August— but I’ve given up on June (obviously) and am 50/50 for July. Not blaming QuickDraw or anyone— we are living and recovering from a unique supply chain situation in the world, and many of my hours in a day are coordinating construction delivery schedules and issues in my work (I rep commercial lighting). So I get the delay, just wish a little more communication as I still have to be available for deliveries and it’s vacation time of the year.
I am getting close to pulling in garage and starting disassembly. I’m no longer in a hurry as It won’t be ready for summer. Maybe fall…
I am getting close to pulling in garage and starting disassembly. I’m no longer in a hurry as It won’t be ready for summer. Maybe fall…