What have you done to your DEFENDER today?

JimC

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So all I did was bust my LOF clutch spring. This was after about a year of use. Why do I bother with these sorts of “upgrades?”


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steinhnj

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Jim, I just happen to have one of these sitting on my work bench if you’d like it. I live in Falls Church and I’d love to drive a suped-up 300Tdi to see the potential. I gave up on the LOF spring - didn’t like the feel.

BTW, I think my wife stalked you one day at a Dr’s clinic. She sent me this.
 

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KGH

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“BTW, I think my wife stalked you one day at a Dr’s clinic. She sent me this.”

Stein, probably does not compare to my low-speed chase avoiding MP’s, at EUCOM, hot on Jim’s tail! I mean, a 130 with an upside down 130 bed on the bed? Had to track him down!
 

MountainD

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So all I did was bust my LOF clutch spring. This was after about a year of use. Why do I bother with these sorts of “upgrades?”


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I just installed on in my TD5 clutch box…. Too much assist and it inverts and pedal stays at floor! I have it now adjusted so it barely doesn’t but working that out. Only use LOF spring with older style box…. I forgot my new box was TD5!
 

JimC

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I had the same issue. Contacted them and they sent me a new one
i don’t want a replacement, it‘a a totally inessential part that doesn’t do anyth8ng meaningful. It’s just got one less wind on each side of the spring and I prefer the more positive return action on the stock spring.
 

JimC

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I just installed on in my TD5 clutch box…. Too much assist and it inverts and pedal stays at floor! I have it now adjusted so it barely doesn’t but working that out. Only use LOF spring with older style box…. I forgot my new box was TD5!
LOF spring doesn’t even work with the old-style pedal, that is to say pre-94. All NAS style are identical to TD5 and later unless I’m missing something.
 

MountainD

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LOF spring doesn’t even work with the old-style pedal, that is to say pre-94. All NAS style are identical to TD5 and later unless I’m missing something.
Well, let me rephrase this, as other things changed too. Use of the LOF spring with QuickDraws R2.8 clutch kit,the Dorman slave upgrade (such as Lav recommends) and the later style box has a tendency to invert. in retrospect, I recall that Dorman/LOF has had others experience this…. (And glad I kept original spring too as spare with all those broken!)
 

Grnrvrs

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Not sure about the shiny aluminum in an all black interior. Getting rid of the original knobs that would spin & even come off unexpectedly is a long overdue improvement. There was no fixing the old ones.

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I hate to be contrarian, but...an option for new or old black knobs:

1. find a suitable nut that threads onto the stick
2. thread it on and keep track of the orientation
3. take it off
4. heat it up to near cherry red
5. while hot, carefully press it into the base of a black knob, keeping the alignment in mind so that the knob it right way up when fully threaded on
6. while cooling, enjoy a frosty one
7. thread it on and be done with the crappy rubber bushings
 

evilfij

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LOF spring doesn’t even work with the old-style pedal, that is to say pre-94. All NAS style are identical to TD5 and later unless I’m missing something.
You are. 93 NAS 110 and some 94 NAS D90 have the old style pedal. VIN cut offs are in the RN link for the spring. #837 has the old pedal box, #838 has the new one. Is that when they switched to R380? Seems early for that, but I am only checking one obscure NAS rover parts fact this evening. :)

 
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JimC

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You are. 93 NAS 110 and some 94 NAS D90 have the old style pedal. VIN cut offs are in the RN link for the spring. #837 has the old pedal box, #838 has the new one. Is that when they switched to R380? Seems early for that, but I am only checking one obscure NAS rover parts fact this evening. :)

I was hedging because my 93 NAS has the old style but both 94s I’ve had were equipped with the new style IIRC, but they were also both R380 trucks. I think there are only two styles except TD5 had a slight variation where they added a position sensor to the clutch master.
 

evilfij

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I hate to be contrarian, but...an option for new or old black knobs:

1. find a suitable nut that threads onto the stick
2. thread it on and keep track of the orientation
3. take it off
4. heat it up to near cherry red
5. while hot, carefully press it into the base of a black knob, keeping the alignment in mind so that the knob it right way up when fully threaded on
6. while cooling, enjoy a frosty one
7. thread it on and be done with the crappy rubber bushings
A more evilfij hack way of doing this is JB weld. But since I went with the ice cube/hand burner aluminium one I don’t concern myself with the plastic knobs anymore.

I did briefly think of wrapping the aluminium one in leather, but I can’t sew (given the prices of defenders these days I am surprised someone does not make a leather wrapped aluminium one).
 
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