York Air Compressor on a 300Tdi

chris snell

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Anybody using a York for on-board air on a 300Tdi motor? Can you post pics of your mounting bracket?

For those that don't know, York compressors make excellent sources of OBA. They'll inflate tires easily, run air tools, etc. They are available new on eBay and as an OEM air conditioner part on many junkyard vehicles. I'm interested in mounting one in my truck so that I can ditch the bulky Powertank.
 

Red90

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I think most people use a Sanden in the stock A/C location. There is not really space for anything else. Nothing wrong with a Sanden. You just need a recirculating oil charge, which is easy enough to do.
 

chris snell

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A Sanden can't touch a York when it comes to air output.

Yes, you can mount a York on these motors. I've seen it done but can't remember who was running it. It was a guy in Colorado.
 

RDavisinVA

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A few comments from someone who has not successfully completed mounting a York compressor on a 300TDI.
Chris is correct that the York is a better choice for on-board air.
The York could be mounted sideways on the timing cover if it has the mounting holes for the Sanden style AC compressor.
You would need to make mounting brackets and align the belt.
There are York compressors with 6 groove serpentine belt pulleys that would be compatible with the 300TDI pulley system.
Serpentine belts are a lot trickier to line up and if not perfectly aligned will wear excessively and fail.
It can be done, but you would need a machinist who can make the properly aligned parts.

I did locate a picture, but it is poor quality and from the rear.
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Red90

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@red didnt you run a york? I thought western helped you out with that. dont be a boner

Yes. It fits no problem on a 200TDI. The 300TDI engine itself is mounted a lot higher on the chassis and the A/C mount is higher on the timing case as well. I've known people personally with OBA on a 300TDI for 20+ years. They did Sandens because they could not find room for a York. Maybe it is possible, but I was providing advice based on first hand experience.

There is nothing wrong with a Sanden. Both compressors put more air out than two tire valves can take. so unless you want to rig up four tires at once, it does not matter.
 
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acheck

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from personal experience, massive onboard air supply sounds appealing but is not worth the chase. i have a huge extremeaire magnum compressor (which is still only a fraction of engine driven OBA output) and never, ever use its capacity. modern portable compressors will air up a defender-sized tire from 15psi to 30psi in just a couple of minutes. yes, you could halve that time but at what effort?

the most useful thing i have found for having a huge volume of compressed air on hand is a blow gun for cleaning stuff in the field. its a luxury item...
 

chris snell

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the most useful thing i have found for having a huge volume of compressed air on hand is a blow gun for cleaning stuff in the field. its a luxury item...

That's exactly one of the things that I want from a compressor. My truck does a lot of miles in very dusty deserts, it's a soft top, and I sleep in the tub when I'm out there. Blowing out the rear of the truck is a luxury that I want. From everything I've been reading, the York 210 puts out twice the CFM of the Sanden at comparable air pressure.
 

Red90

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the most useful thing i have found for having a huge volume of compressed air on hand is a blow gun for cleaning stuff in the field. its a luxury item...

All I can tell you is I air up four trucks in the time it take anyone with an electric to finish. 30 seconds per pair of tires. I'm not sure why people think it is such a big deal. $20 compressor. Hour to make a bracket. Belt, some air fittings, pressure switch. Say $100 out of pocket and 2 hours labour. If you don't need A/C it is much better than an electric.
 

acheck

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All I'm saying is, whether it takes 2 minutes or 10 minutes to air up at the end of the trail, makes no difference to me.
 

Red90

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All I'm saying is, whether it takes 2 minutes or 10 minutes to air up at the end of the trail, makes no difference to me.

If you had a choice of a 500 hp engine or a 100 hp engine for the same price, which would you choose?
 

acheck

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If you had a choice of a 500 hp engine or a 100 hp engine for the same price, which would you choose?

Cost aside, I am content with spending 1 minute of my time on amazon and getting a Viair 88P, versus the time to build and install a big OBA system.

The upside just isnt there for me.
 

chris snell

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IIRC, David Schecter has that setup on his D90. There is a classic pic of him making fresh whipped cream using a Snap On die grinder powered by his on board air.

That's right. Sheki has one, but there is also a guy in Colorado that did it DIY. I believe that Pendy built Sheki's bracket.

The Snap-on whipped cream is pretty much alpha dog overlander shit. These guys were doing it in 2006.

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MountainD

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I had a York for my 3.9 and went to a sanden when I converted to a 4.6. I could run air tools without a secondary tank near continuous with the York. Yeah, better by far than the Sanden. I’m running a puma electric with my LS— it is dann good but nothing holds a candle to the York. It really is more about compressor position and squaring up the pulleys. I have a build thread on my York on other site somewhere but not a 200. I have a 200tdi in the 110 and plan to start looking soon for a home so I’ll check in here as well when I find a Mounting place...
 

chris snell

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Thanks @MountainD. Yep, it's the bracket design that I'm trying to work out. It needs to be able to keep the compressor oriented as it should be, but needs to have a way of tensioning the belt.
 
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