Spy shot of new Defender

[RBBailey]

They are already building in China, and will be opening two other plants as well.

 

[mgreenspan]

As soon as Toyota builds the land cruiser replacement and unveils the FT-X4, it'll be the end. Jeep just needs to sell a wrangler unlimited with more cargo space like their Africa concept and I will have the perfect problem of choosing a new auto. Don't get me wrong. I love my 110 and every other Rover I've had, but when it comes time to replace the poverty Honda van, Land Rover still won't have released their new Defender and Toyota and Jeep will have a viable options.

 

[RBBailey]

Toyota already said they were going to continue to build the 70 Series... Because they understand. I think Rover is making good SUV's, but I have yet to see anything current or future that can actually replace the Defender. It's all about marketing. They know who will buy what, so they make what. Toyota won the flood-the-third-world-market, so they can build the 70 Series and still build all the other stuff as well.

 

[jymmiejamz]

They are already building in China, and will be opening two other plants as well.

The ones the are building in China are only for the Chinese market.

 

[Jrose609]

As soon as Toyota builds the land cruiser replacement and unveils the FT-X4, it'll be the end. Jeep just needs to sell a wrangler unlimited with more cargo space like their Africa concept and I will have the perfect problem of choosing a new auto. Don't get me wrong. I love my 110 and every other Rover I've had, but when it comes time to replace the poverty Honda van, Land Rover still won't have released their new Defender and Toyota and Jeep will have a viable options.

I kind of liked the Jeep Africa concept. Not sure if I would want to spend ridiculous money for it though.

 

[mgreenspan]

I kind of liked the Jeep Africa concept. Not sure if I would want to spend ridiculous money for it though.

I know. The unlimited sport starts below $28k. If the Africa 4x4 was under $35k I would snap one up. $40-45k and I'd have to think about it and probably would sell the 110 to justify it. If it's over $50k I will never buy it. I'm not a cheap fuck, but I'd rather pony up for a used Lexus 4x4 SUV if I'm spending that much.

 

[FlyersFan76]

I figure you have all seen this but I am just not digging what this looks like.

That could change as I didn't really like the current Wrangler at first either.

 

[4wdtravel]

I kind of like that, but there goes your full soft top option and folding windshield. It looks like they made the windshield glass flatter though which is cool.

 

[stu454]

And it's soooo small

 

[The_Vermonster]

Is that the new Renegade?

 

[AdamSanta85]

I just can't get over the "Me Too" factor of Wranglers. The train station I park at every day, there is literally a line of 15 or so Wranglers in a row. It is like being enrolled in a club I have no interest in ever going to.

 

[xplorutah]

Hahaha, come to Utah where everyone drives a Wrangler. Utah is Wrangler country, might have something to do with moab being so close to SLC.

I myself have been considering a Wrangler if the bring something interesting to market. Not to replace my Defender, but to replace the DD and sometimes travel/camp car.

 

[FlyersFan76]

I just can't get over the "Me Too" factor of Wranglers. The train station I park at every day, there is literally a line of 15 or so Wranglers in a row. It is like being enrolled in a club I have no interest in ever going to.

"Its a jeep thing, you wouldn't understand." lol

 

[stu454]

I don't understand chlamydia, either. Doesn't mean I want it, though.

 

[Al Blue4.6l]

I just can't get over the "Me Too" factor of Wranglers. The train station I park at every day, there is literally a line of 15 or so Wranglers in a row. It is like being enrolled in a club I have no interest in ever going to.

this.

 

[Tbaumer]

I was getting bit hard by the Defender bug right about when Jeep Wrangler changed style to a more Defender look.
I looked at them and considered, because it is the closest new 4wheeler to the Defender look, just faster, quieter, more comfortable and newer.
I hate em.
Okay, I don't, but I'm out numbered like 300 to 1 in southern Oregon.
Unique counts as a handicap, right?

 

[rocky]

Unique counts as a handicap, right?

You clearly have special needs. Its called Defender Disability.

 

[mgreenspan]

I think the mini clay model Jeep looks good. They are making the quad cab pickup. Once they have those underpinnings it will be easy to make the larger version like the Africa. This is going to be late 2018 when the new Jeep comes out. It should have a V6, turbo 4, and a diesel option. When is the Land Rover coming out and how's it looking so far?

 

[Al Blue4.6l]

well, there goes hope

A+G – The next Defender is clearly not so far away now. Are you confident it will resonate with Land Rover traditionalists, or is it aimed at an altogether different kind of buyer?
KM – There is going to be so much attention when this [new Defender] comes to market, there’s no question. There’s going to be a group of people who will not like it, because they are traditionalists and they like the historic visual expression of the brand. But it has to have the capability that one expects from Defender and Land Rover. I think it will have the goods.
This is going to be a new, modern expression, but we haven’t left behind what you would expect of it in terms of capability. Defender is a model that can stretch by itself from something that is very basic to something that is perhaps a little more luxury focused. You’ll probably see a wide range there. It’ll be fun; I can’t wait.

http://www.alloyandgrit.com/2016/12...d-why-the-next-defender-wont-please-everyone/

 

[4wdtravel]

well shit.