Roof top tent setups

KW1985def110

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Hi all,

My kids are pushing for more and more camping trips and I’m looking for ways to improve our setup - speeding up prep time prior to the trip and break down time when the trip is coming to an end.

I’m thinking one way to improve time wise is a roof top tent. Looking for lessons learned & feed back on RTT setups. Curious how drive-ability is? It’s a lot of weight up above the center of gravity. Pictures welcome.

I’ve got a 110 station wagon.
Also I should mention I have too many kids to sleep inside the vehicle.

Thanks
 

ionfender

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The soft sided RTTs that flip in half take about as much time as a regular tent to set up and stow away…I’m not a fan. However, the soft sided RTTs come in bigger sizes (sleep up to 4).

I’d go with the flatter/longer, hard sided version that opens up into a triangle shape (link below). This type usually only accommodates 2 adults.


There are a variety of brands/price points, I’m just posting that one to show the style of tent I’m referring to.
 
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jymmiejamz

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I’ve never seen someone set up a RTT faster than a ground tent. Only advantage is leaving the bedding in the tent. Check out a tunnel tent for fast setup.
 

KW1985def110

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I was looking at these to start
 

ionfender

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I was looking at these to start
Have a buddy that has that tent. He loves it. I don’t have first hand experience with that one.
 

expanse

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Have you considered building a small camp trailer? Sounds like it might be a good fit if space is getting tight too.
 

KW1985def110

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Yup open to a trailer. Have looked at buying and building. definitely like that idea bc it’s not top heavy on the vehicle and doesn’t require breaking everything down to go for a drive.
 

pfshoen

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Occasionally a Sankey comes up for sale. Not a fan of the steel bucket design of the box, but the chassis is prob the strongest I've ever seen in that size. Can put tent on top and storage below.
 

Giftshopduane

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I have a huge OVS xl rtt, I like it. Tons of room (equivalent to a king mattress) It's not a big deal to setup.. although on top of the disco it's really high. I think the hardshell tents are limited in size, whatever they say (any tent) divide the occupancy rating in half and you'll have a sense of real world sizing.

That being said my rtt is almost exactly the size of my narrow track Sankey. I may build a rack for the trailer and tow it, been thinking of a small rtt for the roof for just 2 of us or solo camping, and when the kids want to tag along drag the Sankey. Frontrunner makes a handy set of quick release rtt mounts, the xl is a beast so that may sway my decision to downsize.

I don't think setup time is a big deal, it's easier than wrestling with poles, rainfly, tarp, mud, moisture etc..

Also, how many kids are we talking about here? I have 5, we toured the canyon lands this fall, my daughter joined us with her boyfriend (8 total) they had their own tent and 6 of us slept in a 12 person ground tent, it was just enough room. Logistically setting up a tent was faster than any other task we had to perform..
 

4RF RDS

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RTT on a small trailer is the way to go. You have a base camp or you can do trails with or without it. No tearing down your camp to drive trails with a trailer. I removed my RTT from my truck and built a trailer. Anyways that is what I learned.

Good luck

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erover82

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With that many kids, I'd think a pop-up trailer would be ideal without getting into full sized trailers that completely change the experience.
 

Frenglish

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Get yourself some Swags, they roll out and setup faster than anything I have seen, only issue is you're on the ground. but they have a mattres in side and roll up really quickly, look nice stored up on the roof.


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saetaes

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Get yourself some Swags, they roll out and setup faster than anything I have seen, only issue is you're on the ground. but they have a mattres in side and roll up really quickly, look nice stored up on the roof

This summer I also started going down the RTT rabbit hole, and came to this conclusion too - the swag is a pretty good RTT alternative, at 1/10th the cost. You can put the smaller ones on a cot too, so no need to be on the ground. Some pros of the swag that have led me to lean that way when I revisit this purchase next year:
  • No center of gravity issues
  • Can be strapped to the roof rack when traveling, and left at camp during the day
  • No need to worry about leveling the truck (or trailer)
  • Cost
  • Aussie overlander approval
I hear they're pretty bulky, but to me it seems like a decent trade-off for improved comfort/setup over a ground tent.
 

Grnrvrs

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I started with a FrontRunner Featherlite tent on the roof rack. Great little tent, but a bit awkward to tear down due to the height. Picked up a Penman trailer and built a small rack for the trailer. Upto 5 bikes and/or gear underneath and tent up top. Super fast to deploy and break down. Much more comfortable and way cleaner. Never going back to the ground. These days, we always travel with multiple bikes and the trailer storage under the tent is key.

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DefendersNW

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I'm super biased here, but lots of experience, research, and customer intercept interviews as well. Autohome is the tent I found after lots of research for year around use in NORTHERN states and across the Americas. Full disclosure - Bought first tent in 2011, became a reseller of Autohome in 2012, bought controlling share of Autohome USA in 2020, and have used all the models of tents we make as well as the knockoff and lesser alternatives. Our tents are expensive, work in all conditions, and we have tents still in use that are older than every other RTT company in existence.

The cliff-notes version is:

1: Dont buy a crap tent new, pick up one used to try out RTT camping (Ikamper, FrontRunner, Thule, and the hundred other same factory tents from Asia) - they are only good for a few seasons if you use them on the regular and you are better served trying a used tent and saving $$ for a good unit if it works for you. Cheap tents are the reason there is a bad RTT reputation - a good tent can last decades and if you use it will be worth the few hundred dollars a year it costs to offset the $5k price. I met a woman last year with a 37 year old Autohome tent and offered to by it from her and give her a new tent so I could put hers in the showroom. She refused to sell me her tent as she bought it new when she took a travel job after college and still uses our tent ~50 nights a year.

2: Soft shell for more room relative to footprint if you are a fair weather camper. Slower, louder, and less comfortable when there is wind or weather.

3: Hardshell for year around use - Be mindful of roof weight but don't go so light that you loose the benefits of speed and comfort. The skinny tents with no storage mean you are still bringing bedding up and having to store it in the car during the day - loosing two of the benefits of a good hard shell tent. The Alucab tents are sturdy but too heavy for a Defender in my opinion. Most of the knockoff hard shell tents are not sufficiently structural and flex or dont seal out dust & water. We make the lightest full hardshell tent in a full carbon fiber layup but the cost is high. Our fiberglass tents are all fully structural (only crossbars needed) and seal up - most are between 110-140lbs.

4: RTT use are practically limited to two adults - a small child is OK but 4+ is too many to manage on the roof. I went from three of us in the tent to moving the kid "downstairs" and eventually to a ground tent for the kids with wife and I in the roof.

5: trailers suck... Except when they dont. An easy way to carry a second RTT and loads of stuff. Fine if you are on long trips and mostly forest roads, crap in a city or tight trails. Storage and maintenance $$ considerations as well. But if you have a hobby or sport that needs gear the trailer solution is a game changer. IE motorcycles are tough to carry more than two at a time in a 130, but with a trailer I can carry four bikes and four people...

Hope this helps - reach out if you have any specific questions

I’ve never seen someone set up a RTT faster than a ground tent. Only advantage is leaving the bedding in the tent. Check out a tunnel tent for fast setup.
I'm in bed in 30 seconds from parking the car regardless of, dark, wind, rain, or snow. If you can beat that with the ground tent color me impressed. The $$ however is quite different from my ground tents.
 

jymmiejamz

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I'm in bed in 30 seconds from parking the car regardless of, dark, wind, rain, or snow. If you can beat that with the ground tent color me impressed. The $$ however is quite different from my ground tents.
I probably should have mentioned hardshell tents, but I’ve never been in a group with anyone who had one. Your dentist would probably be disappointed with your bedtime routine.
 

chris snell

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My opinion is that they solve for a problem that doesn't need to be solved, or can be solved better in other ways.

If it's just me in the truck, there is no better sleeping environment than in the back of my 3-door truck. It's protected fully from the elements and if I need to bail quickly for some reason, I can crawl into the drivers seat and do that.

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If I'm traveling with the family, I want something better than cramming into a RTT with the rest of my family. I'd rather put us in a more comfortable family-style tent where we can have space to move around and change clothes under the protection of the tent. If I'm traveling in the summer, that's a MSR 6-person tent:

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If it's winter, we are setting up my Snowtrekker High Country canvas tent and firing up the Four Dog wood stove. It can be -20F outside and we'll be toasty and dry inside, lounging around the table and cooking fancy meals on top of the stove.

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