Rear seat placement

CTROVING

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I've removed the rear side benches from my D90, And I have sort of stay NAS Style rear bench forward facing seat. (Excuse the mess, the rear floor is being repainted)

I've downloaded the Land Rover PDF for 1995+ illustrating the position of the rear seat - As stated it is approximately 17" from the front of the rear floor, and about 6" inboard from the wheel wells. (See below)

I just want to triple check with the community and see how others have mounted rear forward facing benches in ROW units.


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** 1/2" holes would end up passing through this bed support? Check your information twice, measure twice, cut once...


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Sorry I dont have anything productive to contribute. However, I have a 110 three-door that I need to add a rear seat to. Can you share where you sourced the seat and what mounting method/hardware you will use?
 

Giftshopduane

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Since it's not an NAS seat isn't it kind of arbitrary where it goes? Are you using 3 point belts or just laps? I'd avoid drilling through the crossmember and find a nice spot with a little room, your brackets require 4 bolts, so you're going to want the room for the backing plates (required!). If you happen to catch one side of the crossmember flange I'm sure that's ok and plate the other 2, if you luck out and can catch both sides of the CM I'd venture a guess that would work also in lieu of dedicated plates. I'm no safety expert, but those would be the options I'd weigh if it was my truck. Am I wrong in thinking there were dimples in a 90 tub that dictated the holes for the side brackets or did I make that up? NAS only? Anyway if that were true with a NAS bench the rest of the holes would follow.. my .02$
 

CTROVING

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Since it's not an NAS seat isn't it kind of arbitrary where it goes? Are you using 3 point belts or just laps? I'd avoid drilling through the crossmember and find a nice spot with a little room, your brackets require 4 bolts, so you're going to want the room for the backing plates (required!). If you happen to catch one side of the crossmember flange I'm sure that's ok and plate the other 2, if you luck out and can catch both sides of the CM I'd venture a guess that would work also in lieu of dedicated plates. I'm no safety expert, but those would be the options I'd weigh if it was my truck. Am I wrong in thinking there were dimples in a 90 tub that dictated the holes for the side brackets or did I make that up? NAS only? Anyway if that were true with a NAS bench the rest of the holes would follow.. my .02$
@Giftshopduane Agreed - it is an ROW unit so I do have a degree of freedom as to it's precise location (but I hope my final measurements put me on point). 3*4" plate for the center lap belt anchor point and 2*2" plates for the opposite ends of the seat belts. I'm going to make up gaskets in the coming days to prevent any galvanic action. Avoided the crossmemember units.
 

DefendersNW

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If I'm not too late - most of the forward bench conversions we've done have been using airline track so the seat is adjustable and removable. Anchor/sandwich plates under the tub to share the load and seatbelts to track as well (if not built into the seat itself). Toting kits around and the seat can be more forward, adults can get extra leg room, need to take some big stuff somewhere just remove. Track is same thickness as matting so three mats (side, side, middle) and the floor is pretty flat that way as well.
 

CTROVING

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If I'm not too late - most of the forward bench conversions we've done have been using airline track so the seat is adjustable and removable. Anchor/sandwich plates under the tub to share the load and seatbelts to track as well (if not built into the seat itself). Toting kits around and the seat can be more forward, adults can get extra leg room, need to take some big stuff somewhere just remove. Track is same thickness as matting so three mats (side, side, middle) and the floor is pretty flat that way as well.
Do you have any pictures? I think I've seen the airline tracks as an inlay within a wooden floor.
 

DefendersNW

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Do you have any pictures? I think I've seen the airline tracks as an inlay within a wooden floor.
no photos handy (sorry) - loadspace matting is 3/4" thick horse stall in most of our working trucks so the 5/8" track is below the mat level just a touch. I've had to bend or weld up either a front or rear bar to get an aligned bolt patient between front and rear seat mounts so that the tracks can be spaced to match.
 
If I'm not too late - most of the forward bench conversions we've done have been using airline track so the seat is adjustable and removable. Anchor/sandwich plates under the tub to share the load and seatbelts to track as well (if not built into the seat itself). Toting kits around and the seat can be more forward, adults can get extra leg room, need to take some big stuff somewhere just remove. Track is same thickness as matting so three mats (side, side, middle) and the floor is pretty flat that way as well.
Is there a rear seat you like? I'm trying to figure out what I want to do in my perentie. Originally I was going down the road of something like a baja bucket with four points for kids. Now I'm wondering if track and maybe something like a Ford Transit two-up seat might give me more flexibility.
 

CTROVING

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I thought about that option myself - I just don't know if they fold flat. I really like the shoulder belt system being integrated and not anchored off the hardtop.
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I've not seen an example of this in a defender through all my searching online.
 

DefendersNW

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Is there a rear seat you like? I'm trying to figure out what I want to do in my perentie. Originally I was going down the road of something like a baja bucket with four points for kids. Now I'm wondering if track and maybe something like a Ford Transit two-up seat might give me more flexibility.
Most folks using a simple low bench, but I suppose anything that fits is viable. Doesn't need to fold flat if you can adjust position or remove entirely.

 
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