my 110 is titled as a 1981(hmmmm)

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LivinthDream

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When I bought my second 110 the title said it was a 1981. The vin number according to the attached Vehicle Identification schedule indicates that it is a 1985. When I contacted Land Rover UK, their answer was " Your Land Rover was dispatched from our production facility in 1984". Maybe late in 1984, I don't know? When I purchased my 3rd 110,( If I buy another one I'm going to have to hide it so my wife doesn't know I have it)It stated that it is a 1983. The Vehicle Identification schedule attached indicates that it is a 1984. Anyone familiar with title tampering in order to import or something along those lines?
I guess my question is do I go by what the Vehicle Identification schedule indicates or do I go by the title. Obviously the 1981 ins't correct, but is the 1983?

Anybody had similar experiences?
(not with their wife but the titles)

not sure where thus ended up(wasn't intended to be in cummins section)
 

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Red90

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You can't use the VIN date code to determine the model year for early trucks. They used "A" for a long time. Vehicles were never sorted or referred to by a "model year" and you just get the build date.

As above, get a build date or a complete certificate.

What is you serial number? That can sometimes narrow down the build date if you want to know right away.
 
RBBailey

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Yes, what Dro said.

The fact that LRNA itself messed up the the reading of the VINs on many of the vehicles that were confiscated by the KGB-USA a few years ago, should tell you something about how the overall VIN situation is with the older Land Rover vehicles.

One of the things I appreciate about my truck is that the VIN plate, as demanded by the UAE government at the time, is more specific than most Rovers. It indicates the month of manufacture, as well as the year. I don't think that is the case on most Rovers of this vintage -- ?
 
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Red90

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That is early then. Should be a 1983 build date. According to James Taylor...

March 1983 - 184732
January 1984 - 208595
 
RDavisinVA

RDavisinVA

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DO NOT POST YOUR ENTIRE VIN HERE.
Now that that's out of the way, is it a 2 or 5 door and does it have sliding or roll-up windows?
 
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LivinthDream

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Mine came with sliding windows ( 2 piece). 5 door. My experience in the past has mostly been with American and German Cars. When working on those, it's critical to know what year they are and in many instances what month they were manufactured. It seems that with my 110's in some instances ( especially 1983-1985) most parts interchange between those years. While the doors are different, they will fit the same size opening.
The Dro mentioned above that for 6 British Pounds I can get a build date for my Trucks. Is this money well spent. I guess what I'm asking is there times when I am going to order parts that I'm going to need a build date to determine what parts I need.
 
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Red90

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No. The VIN is all you need. When there are changes, they go be the VIN. Many parts exchange forever. Doors for instance will work from 1958 to 2016.
 
Uncle Douglas

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chris snell said:
Why? It's not like the VIN ranges aren't public knowledge.
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Because he's stated in his title that he has a fraudulently registered vehicle. Any law enforcement type would be able to find him via his vin, or a potential future owner, or insurance underwriter/or claims adjuster would be able to find the thread here with a simple google search.
 
Uncle Douglas

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LivinthDream said:
When I bought my second 110 the title said it was a 1981. The vin number according to the attached Vehicle Identification schedule indicates that it is a 1985. When I contacted Land Rover UK, their answer was " Your Land Rover was dispatched from our production facility in 1984". Maybe late in 1984, I don't know? When I purchased my 3rd 110,( If I buy another one I'm going to have to hide it so my wife doesn't know I have it)It stated that it is a 1983. The Vehicle Identification schedule attached indicates that it is a 1984. Anyone familiar with title tampering in order to import or something along those lines?
I guess my question is do I go by what the Vehicle Identification schedule indicates or do I go by the title. Obviously the 1981 ins't correct, but is the 1983?
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A foreign registration is not a title. On a foreign registration it does not state a year model- they use "date of first registration". Here we go by model year.
A vehicle built in 84 shipped out to a dealership, sits on the lot until sold, would not be registered a first time until sold. That date of first registration is what is most often used on import paper work which is what is submitted to DMV to register a vehicle in the US the first time. I would suggest you contact the archivist @ Gaydon and pay 6quid and get them to email you the actual build dates on your trucks.

Your 81 may have been a DMV clerk error-some systems default to 81 when confronted with a non conforming VIN- ebay for instance doesnt recognize the non conforming vins used on these truck and defaults to 1981- the year most manufacturer's standardized. Rover refused to conform to what other manufacturers were doing @ the time. A DMV clerk has to overide this issue in most states as the systems in most states are looking for conforming VIN's.

With a build date letter(s)from Gaydon you may be able to have DMV in your state correct your title (s).
 
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Red90

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Roverman2010 said:
That list is incorrect. My 85 is a 90 not 110 (236***)
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The list says that 1985 serials for 90s are between 229956 and 256593. How is that wrong? 90 and 110 serials were not separate at that time and truck serials were build sequential regardless of wheelbase. The list just shows the first serial of each type for that year.

As described, they even included RRCs in the sequence after May 86.

In December 1990 a few months after the Defender was introduced, they separated the serial sequence by wheelbase. God know what they did when they reach 100000 units. It was not a well thought out plan...
 
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