lock cylinder help, modern style rear door.

Toyrover

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On my defender, I replaced the rear door with a newer style (i think 2006). This new door is amazing except it has someones lock in there. I tried my old key on the miracle that it would fit. Are the lock cylinders transferable from old style to the new style? Can i transfer over the whole handle assembly? Any advice would be great!! Crawling over the rear seats to unlock and lock is getting old. cheers ian
 

Red90

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I "think" you can switch to the old latch and that would be the safest bet to retain the same keys. The newer latches have a lever for power locks and use the longer lock barrel to match the later long keys on the front doors. Can't be completely sure as playing with modern parts is not a luxury I have...
 

JimC

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Old doors have the "short" cylinder and the new doors accommodate the "long" cylinders (which is why there is a little bump-out on the door skin). The good news is that these are compatible - they have the same key profile. So you can take a key from a long cylinder (like your doors and/or ignition) and match it to another long or short cylinder in a rear door. If you need more detail on how to do this, just let me know.
 

Toyrover

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Old doors have the "short" cylinder and the new doors accommodate the "long" cylinders (which is why there is a little bump-out on the door skin). The good news is that these are compatible - they have the same key profile. So you can take a key from a long cylinder (like your doors and/or ignition) and match it to another long or short cylinder in a rear door. If you need more detail on how to do this, just let me know.

So i can put my old cylinder in the new spot. At first I was just going to switch over my whole latch assembly, but I like the new door latch better. I just need to figure out how to get the old cylinder out if I don't have a key?
 

JimC

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No, you can't put the old short cylinder in the new door, but you can re-key a new long cylinder to match your existing ignition/door key (assuming your doors use long cylinders). You might have to drill the lock to get it out (but pull the latch first to avoid damaging the door). I've gotten lucky before with "close" keys that allowed me to get the lock out non-destructively.
 

mitherial

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Piggybacking on this thread: the ignition key or the cylinder itself on my 1989 ROW 90 appears to have worn out. It has been finicky, but is now completely non-operable and the ignition won?t turn at all. Short of replacing and rekeying the whole cylinder, is this something that a locksmith can fix?

Joy of joys, it has left me stranded at Sams Club instead of breaking conveniently in the garage


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DefendersNW

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Piggybacking on this thread: the ignition key or the cylinder itself on my 1989 ROW 90 appears to have worn out. It has been finicky, but is now completely non-operable and the ignition won?t turn at all. Short of replacing and rekeying the whole cylinder, is this something that a locksmith can fix?

Cheaper and easier to just replace the ignition module - gets you a couple new keys (keep one aside as the "master" that is not used in the truck and make all future copies from that one key) or an upgrade to include the late type key so you have one key for ignition and handles (push button)
 

rocky

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Piggybacking on this thread: the ignition key or the cylinder itself on my 1989 ROW 90 appears to have worn out. It has been finicky, but is now completely non-operable and the ignition won?t turn at all. Short of replacing and rekeying the whole cylinder, is this something that a locksmith can fix?

Joy of joys, it has left me stranded at Sams Club instead of breaking conveniently in the garage


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At least you can buy some tools to hot wire the ignition, then get a push start.....
 

mitherial

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Got the fiancee to give me a ride to Lowes Hardware and had a new key copy made, which thankfully worked well enough to get me back home. (Worn edges on the old one? Dunno)

I read somewhere online (Rovers North?) that the RRC key could be used instead of the considerably more expensive Defender one, but when I tried that, the ridges could be cut to a perfect match but the grooves along the side of the key were not deep enough and the damn thing would not even fit into the ignition.


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mitherial

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If the new key is finicky at all I will probably replace the ignition module per the advice above, but at l least I won?t have to do that in the rain at Sams Club


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Toyrover

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Back on the 1st subject, I ended up taking the td5 lock assembly to off the door, and they were able to change the internal wafers to match up with my ignition key for 20 bucks!! Now time for rewriting the door to work with the rest of the truck!
 

Viton

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Question,
Does the newest rear door lock assembly discussed in this thread, transfer (mount into) the existing place (including bolt on-to existing bolts, etc.) of a NAS station wagon (SW) door? Mine is a '97.
 
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