Building the perfect 90

Maybe you are better than me - but when I rebuild my RHD '66 SIIa 109 over 4 years (no where near your level of restoration) and then I would take it down the country dirt roads of VT - I would cringe at the sound of the gravel ricocheting around under the car thinking off all the road rash that is occuring, and then the cloud of dust that would drift into every crack and crevice knowing I could never get it as clean as when I built it. Drove me loopy - I would come home and try to wipe it down as well as look for something leaking or not right and I finally realized - this is not enjoyable.
My NAS D90 is coming up on 100K miles and that was when I kinda targeted a major rebuild - and now I am thinking maybe the same thing will happen again :oops:o_O:ROFLMAO:
Thanks for the post - Cheers -

Yes, in addition to rattles, I also detest gravel pinging off panels. There's a plan to address it, of which the undercoating is a part. More to come on that later. On leaks, the struggle is real. I've already repaired one on the front cover (install mistake), and the new fuel tank and rebuilt transmission are both leaking at their drain plugs already.
 
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On leaks, the struggle is real.
You know the Landy creed - If it isn’t leaking the “xx” is empty. I consider myself very, very fortunate as the ‘94 LWB doesn’t leak a single drop any where and it gets driven.
Feel sure you’ll get it leak free as well!
 

jymmiejamz

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Yes, in addition to rattles, I also detest gravel pinging off panels. There's a plan to address it, of which the undercoating is a part. More to come on that later. On leaks, the struggle is real. I've already repaired one on the front cover (install mistake), and the new fuel tank and rebuilt transmission are both leaking at their drain plugs already.
The drain plugs on new tanks always leak, just tighten the plug more
 

Continuing the brake system focus, I set to work on the lines and proportioning valve.

Started at the front caliper hard lines, with a set of stainless brackets and new flex lines. I used standard galvanized/PVF-coated steel because it's stronger than copper-nickel, is easier than stainless to build with, lasts forever in the local climate, and looks OEM. Here the bend line is being marked with compensation for the specific bending tool.

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I've used a few types of bending tools, but I prefer this one due to its compact size and smooth bends.

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Completing a caliper pipe with new fittings and hydraulic flares.


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Definitely not the most convenient flaring tool to use in tight spots.

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Taking a break after working on the rear for a while.

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Rear complete

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The front pipe which spans the bulkhead is one of the more challenging with many bends and obstacles to snake around. The length makes it difficult to form the bends since the unformed end whips around and inevitably gets in the way, so I kept it partially coiled and straightened it as I went.

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Almost there.

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In an effort to rationalize the brake system and ensure safety, I set aside the original "G" valve, and obtained a proper later type proportioning valve. Now with exception of the booster and master (for good reason), the axles, calipers, and valve would comprise a matching and proven later-type system.

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Here the valve was mounted in the factory position and most of the pipes are complete.

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jymmiejamz

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I've been wanting to try one of those hydraulic flaring tools. I use the vice mounted version of that. I like to use that same brake tubing, but I've also found that stainless is pretty easy to work with when you have the proper tools for bending and flaring. I have a tight radius bender I bought a while ago from Fragola that has been great for mimicking factory bends.
 
I've been wanting to try one of those hydraulic flaring tools. I use the vice mounted version of that. I like to use that same brake tubing, but I've also found that stainless is pretty easy to work with when you have the proper tools for bending and flaring. I have a tight radius bender I bought a while ago from Fragola that has been great for mimicking factory bends.

They make nice flares but I wish there was a more compact version optimized just for brake lines. That Fragola bender looks like a nice piece of kit. Mine was stiff, had to be lubricated, and the powder coat flakes off, but it works great otherwise. The ones I used prior were either too large or marred the pipe.
 

cellulararrest

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10mm thick aluminum coated closed-cell foam was utilized for heat reflection/insulation and some sound absorption, similar to the factory insulation, but with wider coverage.

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ResoNix, the best sound dampening material on the market, was applied to any relevant large flat surfaces which would otherwise turn into road noise resonating drums. It was used both under the 10mm insulation and solo on areas where I didn't want or need the heat insulation. Examples of the latter can be seen here on the right side.

When you say 10mm closed-cell foam then ResoNix are you talking about one product? And is it their Fiber Mat Silver product? Or is this two different products?

This looks fantastic and like it’ll be incredibly effective. I’m looking to do something very similar on my truck but I’m paranoid about trapping water and contributing to rust even though my bulkhead, like yours, is galvy.

Thanks for any additional info! Absolutely beautiful build - excited to follow along
 
When you say 10mm closed-cell foam then ResoNix are you talking about one product? And is it their Fiber Mat Silver product? Or is this two different products?

This looks fantastic and like it’ll be incredibly effective. I’m looking to do something very similar on my truck but I’m paranoid about trapping water and contributing to rust even though my bulkhead, like yours, is galvy.

Thanks for any additional info! Absolutely beautiful build - excited to follow along

Two products. The 10mm closed cell foam with foil heat-reflective face and adhesive backing is available from many vendors. Last I checked, Resonix doesn't offer such a product. The Fiber Mat Silver is similar but is a light fiber instead of the denser foam in the OEM style stuff I used, and adhesive of the Resonix product is probably superior. The Resonix product I used under the 10mm insulation was the CLD Squares.

With my bulkhead being galvanized, epoxy coated (100% moisture impermeable), and the surfaces being sealed by the strong adhesive of the CLD Squares and reflective tape, I have no rust concerns.
 

cellulararrest

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Two products. The 10mm closed cell foam with foil heat-reflective face and adhesive backing is available from many vendors. Last I checked, Resonix doesn't offer such a product. The Fiber Mat Silver is similar but is a light fiber instead of the denser foam in the OEM style stuff I used, and adhesive of the Resonix product is probably superior. The Resonix product I used under the 10mm insulation was the CLD Squares.
Awesome - Thank you for the clarification.

With my bulkhead being galvanized, epoxy coated (100% moisture impermeable), and the surfaces being sealed by the strong adhesive of the CLD Squares and reflective tape, I have no rust concerns.
Same here with the new build. Up here in the Northeast rust is always a concern so I want to be intentional about what I’m sticking to the bulkhead no matter what. I agree your precautions look thorough!
 
Rebuilding the intake air cleaner

Original unit seen here was a filthy, rusty, rattling mess - like every other part.

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Bracket in the ultrasonic cleaner

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Disassemble latches

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Clean, media blast, wire wheel and zinc plate the latches, epoxy the bracket. Spend way too much time finding new tubular rivets.

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Mounting bracket complete

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..Continued

This pin-type stripping wheel worked well for this type of part. The inside had some surface rust to deal with.

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Aircraft stripper for the difficult to strip areas

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Marking where the mounting tabs should be. This is partly why the cleaner was always rattling around in its mounting.

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Weld them back on, imperfectly.

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Media blast everything and seal up the openings. Instead of attempting to spray the inside which would be very difficult, I tried sloshing epoxy around the inside. This worked ok, but was still messy and didn't result in as even mil thickness as expected.

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Prime the outside and touch up the inside with a detail gun

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Sand it down and re-coat

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Sand again, wet this time

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Cured result after final sealer coat and then semi-gloss urethane

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Complete and mounted with new decals

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Siia109

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forgive my ignorance - but its the path to knowledge. Can you define for me the difference of "sealer coat" and "semi gloss urethane". I get that the urethane provides a protective coating but is not scratch resistant as opposed to the sealer coat which would bond to the layer of paint underneath and provide some resistant to scratches. Or do I have that backwards and the urethane is protective armour for the paint?
 
forgive my ignorance - but its the path to knowledge. Can you define for me the difference of "sealer coat" and "semi gloss urethane". I get that the urethane provides a protective coating but is not scratch resistant as opposed to the sealer coat which would bond to the layer of paint underneath and provide some resistant to scratches. Or do I have that backwards and the urethane is protective armour for the paint?

In automotive painting, the layers most commonly look like this:

Primer -> 2k primer / filler / glaze (to fill/level imperfections) -> Sealer -> Top coat

There's no need to block sand parts like this, so you typically skip the "2k primer/ filler / glaze".

That leaves

Primer -> Sealer -> Top coat

The two common types of primer and sealer are epoxy and urethane. I prefer epoxy because it has the best adhesion and moisture/chemical resistance. Also, by thinning it with urethane reducer, it turns into a sealer. This allows one to stock a single product for both uses.

What is sealer for? In the "2k primer / filler / glaze" stage, you'll be doing a lot of sanding and the panel will be several different colors: bare metal where you sanded through, the primer color, the 2k color, and the glaze color. That's not good. Also, with exception of the primer (if epoxy type), none of those are moisture/chemical resistant. For those reasons, you need a final layer to give even color and protect them from the elements. That's what sealer is for.

Basically, a sealer (either thinned epoxy or urethane type) is a very thin and smooth coating that seals any sand throughs and shouldn't need much (if any) finish sanding, and leaves an even color across the surface so the top coat appears consistent.

So back to "Primer -> Sealer -> Top coat". I didn't need to seal the primer layer because it was epoxy based and the sealer is literally the same product thinned. I used it for a different purpose. I didn't need to, but I chose to wet sand the primer, so this probably left sand throughs to bare metal, and possibly some light sand scratch. I also don't remember how many days it had been since I sprayed the previous primer layer. Epoxy primer typically gives you a few days to a few weeks to spray the next coat with good chemical adhesion. After that it's cured too far and becomes too hard and inert for anything to adhere well. All together, I probably sprayed the sealer coat to seal any sand throughs, to fill minor sand scratch, and to reset the clock on the adhesion time window so that the top coat would adhere well.

For the top coat, that's typically either a base coat (color) and urethane clear coat (most common for car bodies), or a urethane single stage paint that combines both into one product. There are pros and cons to both. Few people are going to go to the trouble of base/clear for engine parts, brackets, etc though, so single stage is easier.

Honestly, the part was probably fine in just epoxy primer since it wouldn't be exposed to UV under the bonnet, but I already had the black single stage and it does look a bit nicer, so I decided to go the extra mile.

This is generally what I recommend:

Black parts like brackets:
Prep metal -> Epoxy primer

Black parts exposed to UV
Prep metal -> Epoxy primer -> Any clear coat or black top coat, even spray can types.

Parts that you want to look really nice:
Prep metal -> Epoxy Primer -> 2k primer / filler / glaze (to fill/level imperfections) -> Sealer -> Top coat

Or you could skip all that and have everything powder coated.
 
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One last detail on this. The threaded nipple, highlighted above, had long piqued my curiosity as to its purpose. Internally, a sintered brass filter is present, indicating that air is intended to flow through it, but that's all I could gather. Not finding any information in the workshop manuals, I turned to Donaldson, suspecting they were the OEM. Sure enough, I stumbled upon the answer while browsing their site.

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In retrospect, its purpose seems obvious. Having a quantifiable measure of filter life could be valuable, particularly for fleet operators in dusty regions.

I acquired a suitable gauge and fitted it with an elbow to preserve working room. Mystery solved.

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Heater box restoration

The motor was shot, rivets galvanically corroding, body rusted all over, filled with dirt, foam was gone, and the motor resistor looked as if it had been salved from a shipwreck.

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Tearing it down

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I got that far, and then stuck it in a box for 3 years.


Returning to it, I started off by welding a new stud where one had broke off the blower housing.

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Preparing parts and doing my chores.

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All parts media blasted and/or sanded and ready for primer and paint.

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All parts cured and ready for reassembly.

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New foam on the flaps and butyl sealant in the seams and gaps.

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Reassembly. Particular attention is needed to rivet protrusion and flap position, else the flaps catch and malfunction.

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Probably not worth the expense but I fitted an Alisport high output heater core to extract as much heat as possible.

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One of the more difficult parts was the box to blower bracket. Mine was badly rusted and they were never sold individually. To remedy this, I built one in CAD, and then from electrogalvanized steel.

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..continued

Remanufactured bracket fitted

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I had a plan for the resistor, even laser cutting an adapter for a modern replacement. However, after media blasting the original, it tested perfect, so I sealed it with epoxy and kept it. The wires and connector were grubby too, so I blasted and clear coated them as well.

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Some finishing touches

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Complete and fitted

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Skidmarks

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I have enjoyed this thread tremendously. The attention to detail is almost unnerving!;)

Good color choice… I waffled between colors for about 2 months and finally settled on Keswick green myself. After 18 months or so of picking and getting smarter people than me to help with engine and build, what was 2 months?
 
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