A/C MOD vs OEM vs CoolAir Logan or others

[LazyRabbit]

I sit here in Texas with it being over 100F for far too many days, and I've recently made the decision that i'll likely be here for a while, sooooo....
I think A/C is going to be necessary for my truck, especially if i want to cart around the family anywhere close to summertime.

• So I've been told that OEM is probably the best way to go, but it's around $3,700 (uk based) or $4k+ from Rovers North

• Ministry of Defenders seems alright and Ive heard good things and I like the way they tackled the problem, their kit is probably $2500-$2800 to the door.

• Coolair Logan looks like OEM and sounds like its quality. I have no idea on price.

• I've seen old threads about using vintage air...

What are people using, what are people avoiding.

I almost want use MOD A/C and use a MUD UK Pod on the top of the dash to run a/c vents

 

[jymmiejamz]

I would definitely not get the MOD kit if you live anywhere hot. I’ve installed a few with their dash setups. The cooling is totally inadequate for Virginia, so I imagine Texas would be even worse.

I would recommend spending a good amount of time fixing any air leaks and using some sort of insulated mat on the floors. Then I would go with the factory ac kit.

 

[expanse]

i'm doing a a full MoD install now. It's been a slog of an install. Their solution is about 80% complete in my view.

 

[LiquidMoose]

I ripped out my MOD unit due to poor performance. I bought a Chinese evaporator and condenser off eBay and a Sanden compressor from Summit Racing; the install was a royal pain. I now get a delta of 35f between ambient and vent temps, with the MOD unit I was lucky to get 20f. I live in Arizona. Fixing air leaks is good advice.

 

[jymmiejamz]

i'm doing a a full MoD install now. It's been a slog of an install. Their solution is about 80% complete in my view.

I feel like they have a solid idea but have no idea how to wire an AC system. I would toss their instructions and wire the trinary switch to control the condenser fan and compressor separately.

 

[LazyRabbit]

I would definitely not get the MOD kit if you live anywhere hot. I’ve installed a few with their dash setups. The cooling is totally inadequate for Virginia, so I imagine Texas would be even worse.

I would recommend spending a good amount of time fixing any air leaks and using some sort of insulated mat on the floors. Then I would go with the factory ac kit.

have you installed the dual core AC ones?

 

[jymmiejamz]

have you installed the dual core AC ones?

Are you talking about the MOD kit with the heater core and evaporator all in one? If so, yes, I have installed several. That’s what I’m referring to when I say they have inadequate performance.

 

[LiquidMoose]

I think elbee is refering to an evaporator without the passes for heating , where those passes are used for the refrigerant instead, therefor , dual core.

 

[erover82]

I feel like they have a solid idea but have no idea how to wire an AC system. I would toss their instructions and wire the trinary switch to control the condenser fan and compressor separately.

Separately in what way?

 

[Seedub]

I ripped out my MOD unit due to poor performance. I bought a Chinese evaporator and condenser off eBay and a Sanden compressor from Summit Racing; the install was a royal pain. I now get a delta of 35f between ambient and vent temps, with the MOD unit I was lucky to get 20f. I live in Arizona. Fixing air leaks is good advice.

Are you selling the unit?

 

[jymmiejamz]

Separately in what way?

From what I remember in the instructions they want you to wire the condenser fan so that it comes on when the compressor runs. Most trinary switches I have used have wires to control and compressor (won’t run if pressure is too high or too low) and wires to control the condenser fan (fan comes on at a certain psi.

 

[LiquidMoose]

Are you selling the unit?

No, I'm using it as a heater only.

 

[hillstrubl]

I don't get the hate on the MOD, maybe I was spoiled because Trevor installed mine and made a few changes to the hose routing but I absolutely love it. The only downside I see is the fact that the vehicle itself is completely unsealed.

 

[LazyRabbit]

Are you talking about the MOD kit with the heater core and evaporator all in one? If so, yes, I have installed several. That’s what I’m referring to when I say they have inadequate performance.

I'm talking about the dual core where there is no heater just A/C. I don't use heat much anyway plus I have heated seats and I'll be installing a diesel heater, so the heater will be redundant.

 

[LazyRabbit]

Is the OEM worth the extra $1,000 compared to a dual core A/C only MOD unit?
Is it the classic "cry once buy once" situation?

 

[expanse]

I feel like they have a solid idea but have no idea how to wire an AC system. I would toss their instructions and wire the trinary switch to control the condenser fan and compressor separately.

I agree that they do have a good idea, but just have dropped the ball in many places; instructions, correct hardware, hoses, missing parts, etc. were all an issue with this install. now stuck waiting on the correct heater valve.

last MoD product I agree to do

 

[jymmiejamz]

I got one with the wrong heater valve too. It functioned backwards from how it should. I was able to modify it to make it work

 

[jymmiejamz]

I'm talking about the dual core where there is no heater just A/C. I don't use heat much anyway plus I have heated seats and I'll be installing a diesel heater, so the heater will be redundant.

Got a link? I’ve never seen that.

 

[LazyRabbit]

Puma Dashboard with AC - Ministry of Defender

 

[LazyRabbit]