4 Post Lift..anyone actually have one?

supertreeman

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Debating a lift purchase for new garage and really like the added parking options the 4 post offers. This topic has been debated to death and seems most can make a pretty compelling argument for either 2 post or 4 post. Its said that the 2 post is way better for repairs and and actually working on vehicles while the 4 post offers the obvious storage benefit. Does anyone here actually own a 4 post that can comment? Seems like with bridge jacks the 4 post could be pretty handy for repairs. Many say the runways get in the way but it seems like you could still pretty easily drop trans or transfer case between the runways. One disadvantage I can see is the massive footprint of the 4 post.
 

RDavisinVA

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We have had a 4 post lift since 1990 and have used 2 post lifts in the past.
4 post advantages:
Safety.
I know that a 2 post is suppose to be safe, but having see the arms on 2 post lifts slip and vehicles sway and rock when worked on makes me nervous, especially when you have seen a vehicle slip off one or more arms.
Drive on, drive off - a 4 post lets you drive on and off, so no time is consumed to crawl under and make adjustments set the lift points, go up and check, down, and adjust.
Ramps offer more flexibility - and this is the big advantage that your imagination can wonder endlessly with. You can place a jack across the ramps and use it to position a gearbox or an exhaust. You can weld onto the ramps to make attachments for a frames with cross bats to suspend an engine while you make motor mounts. This type of versatility is just about endless.
Working outside: A ramp lift can live outside as long as you change the hydraulic oil twice a year.
Other uses: If you have a problem to solve the 4 post lift comes in handy. Putting a roof rack on or off. Park a vehicle in front or behind it and install or remove a roof rack with 2 people by carefully moving it off or on which minimizes the required lifting.
You need to lift a crate or something heavy out or into a Sanky. Put a strap or chain around the item and around one of the cross bars and raise the lift. Likewise you can use it to lift an item out of the back of a pickup or trailer, drive out from under the lift and then lower the engine onto a stand or crate onto some moving dollies so it can be pushed around.


4 Post disadvantages:
You cannot do any suspension work
because you need all 4 wheels. If you try to jack up a vehicle on a ramp the vehicle can move off the ramp and slide off,
The vehicle has to be running to get up the ramps and up onto the lift. Pushing it is terrible. This can be overcome with a 120V hand winch which reduces the inconvenience.
You have to pay strict attention. Your situational awareness and powers of observation need to be in use at all times as it is easy to lock one corner while the others remain free when lowering and the whole ramp can get at dangerous angles. Pay attention at all times.
The cables and pulleys need inspection and maintenance - The cables stretch and fray with time and have to be replaced. The pulleys have bushings that wear out with constant use and need to be replaced.

I won't go into the advantages of the 2 post. They work if you are careful and are fantastic for suspension work.
They lack the versatility of a 4 post lift for the reasons stated above.
Generally, but not always a 2 post needs to be inside and this often rules out a typical garage because of the height, but a 4 post is fine sitting on a concrete slab, outside, next to your garage.
 
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Z.G

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We just got a 4 post at RN to replace our 2 post. Definitely has its pros and cons, but ours has the two scissor jacks to lift the chassis once on the lift to allow for suspension work/taking off the wheels. If I had to choose one, I'd go two post.
 

chris snell

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Two-post lifts scare the crap out of me, especially when I'm underneath and whaling on some stuck part. F that. Four-post with the hydraulic scissor jacks.
 

Z.G

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Two-post lifts scare the crap out of me, especially when I'm underneath and whaling on some stuck part. F that. Four-post with the hydraulic scissor jacks.

2 posts can definitely be sketchy, but that sort of goes away as long as you're using a front & rear jack stand to stabilize.

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WreckITFrank

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Used a 4 post with bottle jacks on the steel movable cross beams. There were also feet that popped up for frame mounting after you jacked it up. It was still a pain to move around but did the job. The 12K 2 post I have access to now is pretty fantastic in comparison, but good points above with safety and the usefulness of storage.
 

ezzzzzzz

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My 4 post is tentatively sold. It should leave the shop tomorrow. It served me well but consumed too much room and isn't needed in my new shop. I'll be replacing it with a 2 post for all the obvious service advantages. Safety is always key from capacity to installation to actual use. While a 2 post can increase certain risks it's flexibility outweighs those disadvantages. Thousands are in use today without mishap. Remember ignorance can be overcome but you can't fix stupid.
 

Napalm00

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four post lifts are for storage and fluid changes...pain in the ass and extra stuff needed for everything else. two post lyfe
 

Norton

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Much prefer the two post. Everything from Defenders to F550 dump trucks have been on it.
 

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supertreeman

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Appreciate all the feedback. Been kicking this one around for a while. Hard to argue with the accessibility of the 2 post for repairs and I agree with the safety concerns as well. 4 post really does have a massive footprint in comparison. Casters and the fact that a 4 post isn't bolted down is nice. This is a tough call. In the end I imagine Ill both regret and be super happy with the decision.

Thanks for the suggestions and considerations..
 

jymmiejamz

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I’ve seen a lot more accidents happen with four post lifts than two posts. The only time a vehicle has fallen off of a lift at a shop I worked at was on a four post. One of the locks stuck when lowering and the tech didn’t notice in time. The lift totally collapsed on itself. It is very easy to miss one of the four locks not being fully released on a four post.
 

Angus

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I have a two post and really like it. It is perfect for working on virtually any part of the truck. The truck does not seem unstable when on it. If I were going to stack cars for storage, then definitely a 4 post is the way to go.
 

jymmiejamz

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One thing to consider if you want to store a vehicle under another one on a four post lift is that you need to raise the ramps up as you pull the car under (need 3 people to park a car) or you have to remove the ramps all together (very heavy).
 

Z.G

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One thing to consider if you want to store a vehicle under another one on a four post lift is that you need to raise the ramps up as you pull the car under (need 3 people to park a car) or you have to remove the ramps all together (very heavy).

Our ramps are aluminum, they weigh like 10lbs each and just slide into a channel. Come right off
 

supertreeman

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Pulled the trigger on an advantage lifts 4 post. Really drawn to the storage capability of the 4 post. Will see how the ownership goes. Ive never had a lift of any kind so I have to imagine its going to be way better than jack stands and a creeper.

 

SARTech

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Pulled the trigger on an advantage lifts 4 post. Really drawn to the storage capability of the 4 post. Will see how the ownership goes. Ive never had a lift of any kind so I have to imagine its going to be way better than jack stands and a creeper.

Congrats, looks like its going to be a great addition. I was looking at the the web site, looks like a really nice lift.
 

supertreeman

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Thanks. I was able to see it in person last week in person at a car show. Pretty heavy duty. Made in China which was a bummer, but the USA made lift (Steel Valley Lifts) was literally 3x the cost all said and done. Tough pill to swallow..
 

LR Max

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Back at the dealer we had 4 post lifts with rolling jacks.
Pros:
-Super easy to get cars up in the air
-No worry about slamming a door into a post
-Safe (as others mentioned). Would be a consideration for me if I was by myself in the shop
-With the rolling jacks, easy to lift the axle (solid axle rovers)
-Great for maintenance items (fluid changes, anything underneath, brakes, wheel bearings, etc)
-You always have a place to put a light or put tools/spares, etc. Easy to keep a few magnetic bowls under there and store fasteners. Great to just put a tool down and its at eye level.

Cons:
-Engine work, because the car is on the lift (aka, work space) and is +8" higher
-Same for interior work
-Suspension work can be difficult
-SOB takes up a ton of space
-Learning curve to know where to put your vehicle on the 4 post. Also narrow cars, like a series rover, will BARELY fit on it.

Guess it depends on what you are doing. If you are going to be doing a bunch of Defender 110 body removals for frame replacements, 2 post. Same if you are mostly under the hood, not under the car. If you just maintaining your junk and might need to store a car, 4 post with rolling jacks+catch pans.
 

supertreeman

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Just to update in case anyone else is considering between the 2 types of lifts. I went with 4 post and it’s been pretty great for my needs..

I really like the ability to load and unload heavy items. Also, like RDavis stated above its great to hang things from the runways if needed.
Been using it for an engine swap in my G wagon and it’s been great.

Thanks to all who responded to the thread

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