300Tdi rough idle

1of40

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Agreed, having them tested/cleaned isn?t costly and simple lives part of the mystery. It?s always good to do one fix at a time and start inexpensively if possible anyway. Do you have an external electric pump to help detect air leaks?
 

RDavisinVA

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You can use the poor mans pop-tester, by removing one injector at a time and holding a coffee can under it when it is reconnected to the hard line, but not installed.
You'll be able to see the spray pattern and catch the sprayed fuel in the can, but to do this you have to run the engine on 3 cylinders.
If you try this be sure and wear safety glasses and do not let the sprayed fuel contact your skin.
 

chris snell

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Agreed, having them tested/cleaned isn?t costly and simple lives part of the mystery. It?s always good to do one fix at a time and start inexpensively if possible anyway. Do you have an external electric pump to help detect air leaks?


If you mean a 12V fuel pump, yes, I have one inline. I don't think I have a fuel system issue on a macro level.
 

NPT90

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Check the lift pump. Check the turbo intercooler pipe for leaks.

What made you think the water pump had failed?
 

chris snell

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The water pump failed. Bearing had seized and it was shreaking.


Lift pump is fine, plus I run 12V fuel pump. I will check the IC pipes but I don't think that's my problem.


I'm leaning towards motor mounts right now. I have shitty Allmakes mounts and every other rubber Allmakes product has already crapped the bed at 22K miles on this rebuild so it wouldn't surprise me if the mounts had, too. I am going to put some Genuine ones in.
 

DefendersNW

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The water pump failed. Bearing had seized and it was shreaking.


Lift pump is fine, plus I run 12V fuel pump. I will check the IC pipes but I don't think that's my problem.


I'm leaning towards motor mounts right now. I have shitty Allmakes mounts and every other rubber Allmakes product has already crapped the bed at 22K miles on this rebuild so it wouldn't surprise me if the mounts had, too. I am going to put some Genuine ones in.

Changing motor mounts are not going to fix a rough idle - just change the frequency of vibration into the chassis. If the rough idle is observed (not just "felt") then you have another issue.

start with the basics, fuel and oil condition, filters clean, valves adjusted correctly, fluid/air piping seals good.

Then onto secondary - TIMING, injectors, IP, fuel return, lift pump, tank pickup (screen?) - air system (no leaks post turbo under pressure, and no excessive oil from cyclonic breather into IC.
 

1of40

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I?ve got two genuine mounts still in the plastic available for sale. $45 and can get them shipped out tomorrow AM.
 

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chris snell

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Lots of things to try. Brian's list is a good place to start. Need to verify timing for sure.
 

chris snell

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Update: put a new fuel filter on today and drained the sedimenter, then bled the system thoroughly using my inline 12V pump and the fuel filter housing bleeder screw. Seems more about the same. I'm going to change the air filter and check all of the intake and IC hoses. I feel like there is noise coming from the vacuum pump region and I do have a spare pump. I'm not sure if the pumps will cause shaking or loud noises when they go bad. Braking has been mushy lately.
 
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