2016 HUE 166 in the states..

[Jose B]

Hello Guys!
I have a opportunity to buy a 2016 HUE 166 110. I am a proud American born Latino who's parents are Mexican/American citizen. With that said, that gives me the rare option of applying for a dual citizen ship in Mexico. Thus being able to buy a vehicle in that county legally and driving it back to the USA as long as its in my name with all the proper insurance and paper work. I would renew my permit every 12 months, a inconvenience yes, but a small price to pay in my option. The reason I am looking to go this route is because I want to use it daily with my family and want all the comfort of a new vehicle and reliability also. I want to be able to do 85mph on the freeway and if there is a issue, take it to the dealer since its under warranty. I don't think i can have a truck built for what these cost? Here are my questions, and thanks in advance for the advice!

1. 2016 HUE 166 , 110 with 4k miles one owner priced at $120k

2. this is my 2nd option 2015 110 with 6k miles black, white top one owner for 80K Both trucks are manual trans and diesel, i do believe they have DPF also..

3. On both truck i listed above, they are stock with no add on's. how to i determine the value? Will the HUE 166 hold its value, how many were made?

4. what did these cost new?

5. Can i convert to a auto trans, my wife will not drive a truck that big if its manual. I did read somewhere there was kit to do this, not sure if it will cover newer models?

6. Any know issues with this engine, I would like to remove the DPF system, i would think there should be a "kit" out there to do this.

7. i would think these new defenders have ABS and some other upgrades besides the engine and trans? Is it a big difference compare to a NAS version?

8. This might be dumb question, but why are they called "pumas" is that just because there are from latin America, or are they called that in other parts of the world?

9. If you guys had the same option, would you rather buy a late mode Defender/Puma, or a NAS / or 25 year old model?

Thanks!

 

[jymmiejamz]

Sounds like you want a G Wagen, not a Defender.

While I don't know the laws in Chicago, I would be willing to bet it is illegal to have your vehicle registered and insured to a place other than your residence. I'm not saying people don't do it, but there is a certain level of risk involved.

 

[xplorutah]

X2 on Gwagen. Not sure a dealership in the US would know what to do with one of these newer 110's. And vvveeerrrryyyy few prob know what to do with an old 110 either.

 

[The Dro]

X2 on Gwagen. Not sure a dealership in the US would know what to do with one of these newer 110's. And vvveeerrrryyyy few prob know what to do with an old 110 either.

they have no idea how to work on them

 

[xplorutah]

Yeah I know. Was trying to be kind.

 

[The_Vermonster]

Hello Guys!
Thus being able to buy a vehicle in that county legally and driving it back to the USA as long as its in my name with all the proper insurance and paper work. I would renew my permit every 12 months, a inconvenience yes, but a small price to pay in my option.

From my limited understanding, you also need a Mexican drivers license. It will be a lot harder to get around the laws if you have permanent residency in the US. It might be something you could get away with along the border, but in Chicago you'll stand out like a sore thumb. Not to mention insurance could drop you with the first incident for falsifying information.

3. On both truck i listed above, they are stock with no add on's. how to i determine the value? Will the HUE 166 hold its value, how many were made?

5. Can i convert to a auto trans, my wife will not drive a truck that big if its manual. I did read somewhere there was kit to do this, not sure if it will cover newer models?

The value of the truck will be higher in stock config. You'll invest a lot of money to do the conversion, but not see any increase in value. I believe the sticker price of the anniversary edition was around $70k.

If you want a nice Defender, get a legal import custom built. You can get the "puma treatment" put on any vehicle and have your auto trans for less than the vehicle you're looking at.

A G-wagon is another good choice though.

 

[Jose B]

Not illegal, if you have ever been to any boarder town in the US, you will see vehicles from Mexico or Canada everywhere, its very common, Iam just in the Midwest, thats the only difference. My local dealer will service it, parts will cost a bit more due to shipping. And, NO! I don't want a Gwagen! It sucks that we live in a county that has really strict rules on vehicles, I travel a lot, and i see these everywhere but here in the US. Its the perfect replacement for my 2003 Ford excursion 7.3 diesel with 490k on it, that i got new and now its on its last legs. I just don't have the time tinker with a 25 year old truck right now, maybe later in life when i have more time, right now, work, wife and kids are my priority. I need to be able to go across the US with no worries. Not that a new truck won't break down, but i hope it will be a bit more family friendly. So, can we please get back to my questions..i really do want to be a part of this small community here in the states!

 

[Jose B]

From my limited understanding, you also need a Mexican drivers license. It will be a lot harder to get around the laws if you have permanent residency in the US. It might be something you could get away with along the border, but in Chicago you'll stand out like a sore thumb. Not to mention insurance could drop you with the first incident for falsifying information.




The value of the truck will be higher in stock config. You'll invest a lot of money to do the conversion, but not see any increase in value. I believe the sticker price of the anniversary edition was around $70k.

If you want a nice Defender, get a legal import custom built. You can get the "puma treatment" put on any vehicle and have your auto trans for less than the vehicle you're looking at.

A G-wagon is another good choice though.

Thanks Brother!

 

[1of40]

Call Safari HP and get in line for one of their GM 500HP automatic fully custom 110's.


Or better yet Buy RiverMike's HUE 166 Clone (its in NY on consignment) and send it to SHP for a engine/trans baptism.

 

[morcutt]

Setting aside other issues, you can't keep a vehicle with Mexican plates more than 1 year in the US, before having to return to Mexico.

 

[jymmiejamz]

they have no idea how to work on them

Why wouldn't we? They use the same workshop manual and diagnostic computer as any other Land Rover.

Not illegal, if you have ever been to any boarder town in the US, you will see vehicles from Mexico or Canada everywhere, its very common, Iam just in the Midwest, thats the only difference.

That doesn't make it legal. California even has a nifty form for reporting it. https://www.chp.ca.gov/notify-chp/cheaters-out-of-state-(out-of-state-registration-violators)

 

[Jose B]

Why wouldn't we? They use the same workshop manual and diagnostic computer as any other Land Rover.


That doesn't make it legal. California even has a nifty form for reporting it. https://www.chp.ca.gov/notify-chp/cheaters-out-of-state-(out-of-state-registration-violators)

Well, I think thats why you have to take out a permit when you cross. Here in Illinois, we don't see very many plates out of the county, i didn't see and "Cheaters" link on our state website. I will ask the state if and how i can pay my fair share, I am sure they can use the money..I have no problem pay a fee if needed. Iam sure all the snow birds from Canada have to deal with this when they bring their RV's to Florida for 6 months...

 

[Uncle Douglas]

HUE 166 isn't a model or package, its a UK registration plate used for the first series and last Defender. When you refer to the plate number do you mean one of the 2016/17 limited edition Heritage models ?

I clicked on this thread thinking Maurice Wilks original truck was on display here in the US.

If a US citizen owns land in Mexico you can register a vehicle to that address and drive it back and forth across the border @ will.

 

[Kevin88RRC]

Not sure what year this one is but have a look. Maine is awesome in the summer... fly out & drive it home.
https://maine.craigslist.org/cto/6217382659.html

Less hassle than dealing with a foreign registered vehicle.

 

[jymmiejamz]

From the Illinois DMV website.

If you are new to the state, you have 30 days to get your vehicle licensed and titled after becoming an Illinois resident. You must also obtain Illinois auto insurance before registering your car.

 

[The_Vermonster]

If a US citizen owns land in Mexico you can register a vehicle to that address and drive it back and forth across the border @ will.

But the implication is that the vehicle is stored at the Mexican address. I'm sure seeing something like a Mexican plated Defender is going to draw attention in Illinois. And that is only possible if you have a Mexican drivers license. You can't simultaneously be a Mexican Tourist and a US Resident.

Adding to that, The only person allowed to drive it would be the owner of the land in Mexico.

I still think for $120k you could get an LS powered, automatic, "puma" on a galvanized chassis from Saffari HP and avoid all this legal grey area.

 

[Daddymow]

But the implication is that the vehicle is stored at the Mexican address. I'm sure seeing something like a Mexican plated Defender is going to draw attention in Illinois. And that is only possible if you have a Mexican drivers license. You can't simultaneously be a Mexican Tourist and a US Resident.

Adding to that, The only person allowed to drive it would be the owner of the land in Mexico.

I still think for $120k you could get an LS powered, automatic, "puma" on a galvanized chassis from Saffari HP and avoid all this legal grey area.

^^^^This!^^^^

 

[Jose B]

HUE 166 isn't a model or package, its a UK registration plate used for the first series and last Defender. When you refer to the plate number do you mean one of the 2016/17 limited edition Heritage models ?

I clicked on this thread thinking Maurice Wilks original truck was on display here in the US.

If a US citizen owns land in Mexico you can register a vehicle to that address and drive it back and forth across the border @ will.

Here are some Pics of the truck, I was referring to the Limited Edition. From what i read on this post, these never sold for over $100k new correct? I have a few old 60's muscle cars, and score a 99/100 on points in their class. I am just concerned that if i go the 25year old route, its going to drive like a 25year old car, I have not yet drove a classic vehicle restored to todays standards. This truck picture here drives really tight and just like a new car should feel. I will also be applying for my Mexican drivers incense and voter card, and buying a vacation home out there in the near future, as those are some of the requirements of dual citizenship. Iam starting to think it really comes down to the local cop that pulls you over if he wants to make it a issue, seams like in this case, the law is not all that clear on how long the vehicle is allowed in the states. Also, after 25 years, will these Pumas be available for import as well?

 

[1of40]

Here are some Pics of the truck, I was referring to the Limited Edition. From what i read on this post, these never sold for over $100k new correct? I have a few old 60's muscle cars, and score a 99/100 on points in their class. I am just concerned that if i go the 25year old route, its going to drive like a 25year old car, I have not yet drove a classic vehicle restored to todays standards. This truck picture here drives really tight and just like a new car should feel. I will also be applying for my Mexican drivers incense and voter card, and buying a vacation home out there in the near future, as those are some of the requirements of dual citizenship. Iam starting to think it really comes down to the local cop that pulls you over if he wants to make it a issue, seams like in this case, the law is not all that clear on how long the vehicle is allowed in the states. Also, after 25 years, will these Pumas be available for import as well?

This will not drive like a 25 year old classic. Give Stephen Peters a call and arrange for a time to go see his shop and meet his crew. Well worth a $400 RT ticket. That HUE 166 is being cloned and over priced IMO. That diesel in front of an automatic trans will be a big disappointment. With a SHP GM engine and transmission you get 24/7 nationwide warranty. All GM dealerships will service it. Getting a Land Rover Dealership to give you the time of day will be like shooting craps.

 

[Daddymow]

^^^^This!^^^^
Take the kids to Disney and while they are dropping a couple grand in Mickey's pockets you slip off to Safari HP and spec your truck out with Stephen.