Pelican Cases on Roof Rack

mitherial

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For those of you who carry Pelican cases (or similar) on your roof-rack, what size or model do you use? I have been eyeing the Pelican Vault (i.e. 'discount line') rifle case wi, or Harbor Freight's equivalent with foam removed to carry camping/recovery gear, etc. but want to consider shorter/taller options too.

Can anyone tell me what size/model cases the Camel Trophy teams used?
 

ullur

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1650 for me. But I'm slowly swapping them out for aluboxes. The 1650 is close to 30lbs empty. If I'm remembering correctly I think the Camel Trophy used 1610's
 

mitherial

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The Pelican 1600 looks very close to what the Camel Trophy teams used (basically at 1610 without the wheels/extendable handle). The 1650 is impressive, but too heavy once loaded to go that high for me.

I like everything about the Aluboxes...except for the price of course. How easily do they dent?
 

pmatusov

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Callsign: AK6PM
For those of you who carry Pelican cases (or similar) on your roof-rack, what size or model do you use? I have been eyeing the Pelican Vault (i.e. 'discount line') rifle case wi, or Harbor Freight's equivalent with foam removed to carry camping/recovery gear

Harbor Freight rifle case with foam removed, carrying camping and recovery gear:
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ullur

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Yep, 1600 not 1610.

I'm not nearly as ruff with the alubox as am with the pelicans as they will dent.
 

El Pinchi

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I have 2 1650. Only use them in long trips greater than a week. They are heavy but practical for long trips. Never use them for anything else...too heavy!
 

blueboy

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1650s primarily. Plus 1610s. We also used them to carry stuff back and forth to Europe when we lived there. Currently have 6 1650s and 4 1610s. A flock. 😁
 

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jymmiejamz

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1650.

I have an Alubox similar in size to a 1650 and regret buying it. Its the most flimsy piece of garbage for the price. (Anyone want to trade?)
 

pmatusov

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I have an Alubox similar in size to a 1650 and regret buying it. Its the most flimsy piece of garbage for the price. (Anyone want to trade?)
Jimmy, I wish I knew - I'd have traded you a 1650 for it before you sailed East!
 

Overlander

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I had several and got rid of them. I was carrying things in them that did not justify the additional weight of the pelican case. They have a place, such as for sensitive gear. clothing and soft items are much better suited to soft bags.If you are not doing something like a Camel Trophy-esque activity and need to carry gear externally activity, wolf or Alu boxes are a much better option. you could probably have 3 wolf boxes in fitted canvas roof bag for the weight of one 1600 series pelican case.
 

jon

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For those of you who carry Pelican cases (or similar) on your roof-rack, what size or model do you use? I have been eyeing the Pelican Vault (i.e. 'discount line') rifle case wi, or Harbor Freight's equivalent with foam removed to carry camping/recovery gear, etc. but want to consider shorter/taller options too.

Can anyone tell me what size/model cases the Camel Trophy teams used?

I have 2 pelican 3200 rifle cases for sale in the classified section. Pm me if you want.

I converted all my storage to Zarges. Superior in every sense.
 

jon

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Could you elaborate a bit on this? Thanks.

Sure. I began purchasing the Pelican 1650’s to hold inventory for my business (clothing). We have a mobile unit (my truck) that would set up here in NYC. Over the past 5 years, I have transported inventory in rain, snow, dust, every imaginable condition.

Here’s what I learned about the Pelicans:

- They may be IP68 rated (ingress protection from water/dust), but as you open and close them hundreds of times the lids begin to shift on their hinges and don’t line up as well when shut. Some of mine don’t keep out dust as well as they used to.
- Mine are black and when sitting in the sun, plastic wrapped inventory begins to build condensation.
- When stored in the back of a defender, having 6 latches (especially the 4 on the sides) makes them hard to open and close.
- If you really need every inch of storage the interior of a pelican 1650 in relation to the outside dimensions isNot very efficient. This may not matter to everyone since they’re not packing each one to the gill, but I can fit 87 t-shirts in a 1650 v. 147 t-shirts in the Zargres 40565.
- Pelicans don’t stack very securely. They have notches, but it’s nothing compared to the Zarges.
- Harder to clean when they get dusty, lots of notches and crevices.


Here’s what I’ve found with the Zarges k470 (40565, the model that competes with the Pelican 1650).

- Yes, they are lighter empty but who cares really as mine are always packed to the gills. This could really matter though if you don’t pack them full.
- Zarges are also IP68 rated. However, because the rubber seal on the lip is much larger and more forgiving then the small rubber strip on the pelican, it allows for the lid to shift a bit but still maintain a proper seal.
- Zarges has 2 latches. It shuts just as securely and man is it nice to have just two latches. Access is so much easier in the defender and in general.
- Leave a zarges out in the sun all day. You may burn your ass when you sit on it, but the contents are kept cool and no condensation.
- The interior of the Zarges has nice vertical walls (no angles for the roller as with the Pelican). Makes them much easier to pack, you can turn a Zarges on it’s side and pack it vertically. You can barely place a Pelican on its end.
- When you stack a Zarges on top of a Zarges it’s not moving. Very secure.
- Much easier to clean
- I figure you can store 30% more based on how much more efficient the interior of the Zarges is. So, a Zarges is twice the price, but it does store more.
- The aluminum may dent easier, but that’s just the panels. The edges and corners are way more stout, I’ve dropped them from my roof rack by accident and no dent.
- When you’re not using the Zarges on your truck they make fantastic coffee tables in the home...My English Bully, Dolly
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pmatusov

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Callsign: AK6PM
Zarges cases rock. We used them exclusively when I worked at Scripps - no problem spending weeks ratchet-strapped to wet deck on the boat.

That said - it is super easy to fill a Zarges box with so much shit that you won't be able to lift one off the ground - or the vehicle floor. And, unlike Pelicans, they don't take lightly being dropped on a corner.

I just wish they had a large, yet flat, case. They can make a custom one, but it will be made out of pure gold.
 

RBBailey

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I've always avoided carrying heavy items on my roof. I don't like the trouble, and I don't like the raised CG. But, using something like the case that Peter shows on his RR is exactly what I would use. I've had my eye on those for a while for that exact purpose.
 

pmatusov

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Callsign: AK6PM
Ben, Pelican makes a double rifle case that fits perfectly on the floor of the LWB Classic behind the front seats. I have all my spare parts in it - hundred pounds or so, down low. It also perfectly matches the height of the cargo floor - so with the rear seats removed, you have 78" of perfectly flat sleeping space.
 

jymmiejamz

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Callsign: KN4JHI
The main reason I like a Pelican case is so that I can put it on the roof if the interior of the truck is full. I found that taking a large Alubox off of the roof really took two people, even if it was only filled with lightweight items, such as sleeping bags, sleeping pads, ect.. With the Pelican case, you can just throw it off of the roof onto the ground. They are lifetime warranty, but I've never damaged one doing that (including onto the sidewalk in NYC). I did buy a very old damaged 1650 from a friend for $25 which needed a new latch and wheel. Pelican just sent me a brand new 1650 when I inquired about replacement parts (now obsolete).
 
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