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Old 07-06-2018, 05:11 PM   #1
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Default Fitting Rear Seat Belts.

The set up on the right hand middle row of seats is stock, with the mount plate up on the side, and the three-point retractable lap belt, etc... The center and left hand side were home-made, so I wanted to match the left to the right.

First, I went to order this: https://www.lrdirect.com/BTR5779-Seat-Belt-Outer/ but I needed the female socket end: as is noted in the print on that page, so I upgraded to this: https://www.lrdirect.com/EVL000090PM...AND-ROVER.html

However, all that came in the box is exactly what is shown for BTR5779??? There is no female socket and strap. So I'm not sure why I paid $60 more for this, over the other LR side mounted belt. I'll have to contact LRDirect to figure it out.

But the question I really have for all of you is that I bought a left hand side mounting plate for the left hand side belt: MXC3283. However, this does not fit. The PN on the bag is correct, and it matches images I see online, however it does not line up to any of the bolts or existing holes that are on my truck. The mounting plate for the right hand side sits right up next to the window frame, and there are pre-existing holes in the plate to provide for clearance of the rivets and bolts in the body panel. This new left hand side plate just doesn't fit. So.... other than the PN listed above, what is the real PN I should have ordered?
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Old 08-04-2018, 11:16 AM   #2
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Here is a set of photos to demonstrate what I'm having trouble with. Basically, the clearance/mounting holes on the bracket don't match the truck. If you do line up the holes for one part, they won't line up for the other. And the only spot where I can see that it actually fixes to the vehicle is with the two bolts at the top, and that just can't be enough. As far as I can tell, I need to disassemble this part of the roof and rebuild it around this bracket.

If anyone has a photo of one of these properly installed,...

First photo with ? marks = no holes in the bracket for these bolts to pass through or fix to.
Second photo shows how it is supposed to line up with the top two bolts (pic is sideways), but if you do this, it won't line up with the side bolts.
Third photo shows how there are clearance holes for the two rivets, but they don't line up properly.
In the last photo you can see that if I could get the top bolts to line up, the clearance hole on the back won't be in the right spot......
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We typically drill clearance holes to get the later brackets to line up on an earlier vehicle.
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:35 PM   #4
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So you drill holes into the bracket, or on some spot on the cab? I think you are confirming what I'm thinking needs to happen, I had it in my mind that the seat belt would come with both male and female ends, and that this bracket was worth the money to make it an "easy" job! LOL........

Does this bracket fit flush against the wall, or does it actually "hover" just off the skin of the cab?

I think if I grind down two bolts, drill a mounting hole, then drill two or three clearance holes in the bracket, I might make it fit. But I'm now rethinking this job for a later date as it looks like there is no shop space for the Defender, I may need to pull the front cover and all myself in order to fix the noise issue.

BTW--I have this bracket on the other side of the cab, but the previous owner evidently ran into the same problem, so they just drilled through the skin of the cab and mounted it a bit off to one side. It works, but... I'm trying to see if I can do it the proper way.
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I have an ‘84 110 and ordered the same brackets from lrdirect. Both required drilling to clear various fasteners.

The research I did at the time indicated it was required on earlier trucks.

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