Towing a Defender with a Range Rover

Topperkenobi

Topperkenobi

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Do you guys know if a 2016 Range Rover with Tow Package and the TD6 engine can tow a Defender 110? If so, what is the best trailer to use / buy for it?
Im planning to travel from MS to AZ and for some reason I don't see the wife driving at 55 miles an hour in my Defender without amenities. Once i get to destination, wife will stay in a resort with my daughter and me and my son will dissapear in the trails with the defender.

JP
 
globallandrovers

globallandrovers

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of course it can, i tow Defender 130's on trailers with my p38 with the 2.5BMW diesel

If your Defender only achieves 55 mph can i interest you in a 300tdi conversion? Or a TD5 conversion, then your defender will be able to do highway speeds.
 
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Vtrover

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It probably could do it, but I think you'd be asking a lot of it. Towing anything substantial with a vehicle that's not really designed for it can make for a long trip. I just towed a horse trailer with two horses @ 4,000 pounds total behind my wife's suburban from Maryland to VT and it was pretty painful. I had to go pretty slow, and had a bit of the tail wagging the dog situation, which made the handling sketchy at times. With that said, I'm used to towing with a diesel truck which is a world of difference.
 
Topperkenobi

Topperkenobi

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globallandrovers said:
of course it can, i tow Defender 130's on trailers with my p38 with the 2.5BMW diesel

If your Defender only achieves 55 mph can i interest you in a 300tdi conversion? Or a TD5 conversion, then your defender will be able to do highway speeds.
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It has a 2.5 NA. Does 65 on the Interstate, but not more than that. I assume loaded up it will be hard to keep a decent speed.
I was on the phone with a guy in Lebanon TN who does the upgrades to a 300 TDI. He is working on 3 upgrades right now. He has a spot open in August. I am aiming to get my truck back from my trip, strip it as much as possible and let him do the drivetrain upgrade (engine, transmission /T case and everything else needed). After that I am planning on painting, upgrading my land rover.

I wasn't that impressed with the TD5. I drove it a couple of times back in Argentina. Always preferred simpler diesel engines to more complex ones. Had a Peugeot 405 diesel and a Renault 21 Diesel that me an my dad were able to fix easily. When we got to a Ford Mondeo TD, Peugeot 408 TD and even my audi Q7 TDI, every time something happened I need to get the dealership to take a look at them.
Good thing the guy next door owns the LR dealership, so if something happens with my range rover, he can look at it for free.

I don't know if you do the upgrades or just sell the engines. But if you do the upgrades, around how much do you charge?
Just PM.

JP
 
Topperkenobi

Topperkenobi

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rocky said:
Improve your popularity at Rover events with one of these trailers!

https://www.mobileliftconcepts.com/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhlVCnvYic
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Screw the ergonomic chair. I am getting mine with the racing seat on it!
If I put some awnings around my lifted Land Rover, I can have my own Land Rover to be the roof of my tent. I won't get any rain in my tent, but I would probably get some oil leaking from the ceiling.
I wonder if they have an option with shower, commode and bidet?
That thing is AWESOME!

JP
 
globallandrovers

globallandrovers

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Topperkenobi said:
It has a 2.5 NA. Does 65 on the Interstate, but not more than that. I assume loaded up it will be hard to keep a decent speed.
I was on the phone with a guy in Lebanon TN who does the upgrades to a 300 TDI. He is working on 3 upgrades right now. He has a spot open in August. I am aiming to get my truck back from my trip, strip it as much as possible and let him do the drivetrain upgrade (engine, transmission /T case and everything else needed). After that I am planning on painting, upgrading my land rover.

I wasn't that impressed with the TD5. I drove it a couple of times back in Argentina. Always preferred simpler diesel engines to more complex ones. Had a Peugeot 405 diesel and a Renault 21 Diesel that me an my dad were able to fix easily. When we got to a Ford Mondeo TD, Peugeot 408 TD and even my audi Q7 TDI, every time something happened I need to get the dealership to take a look at them.
Good thing the guy next door owns the LR dealership, so if something happens with my range rover, he can look at it for free.

I don't know if you do the upgrades or just sell the engines. But if you do the upgrades, around how much do you charge?
Just PM.

JP
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globallandrovers

globallandrovers

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Vtrover said:
It probably could do it, but I think you'd be asking a lot of it. Towing anything substantial with a vehicle that's not really designed for it can make for a long trip. I just towed a horse trailer with two horses @ 4,000 pounds total behind my wife's suburban from Maryland to VT and it was pretty painful. I had to go pretty slow, and had a bit of the tail wagging the dog situation, which made the handling sketchy at times. With that said, I'm used to towing with a diesel truck which is a world of difference.
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Range Rovers, Discovery's and Defenders are designed to tow trailers, here in europe we tow all sorts of things with them from horse boxes, to food stalls, to cars, to tractors etc. If your trailer was wagging then your nose weight was too high or too low. I have towed 18 tonnes with a 300tdi defender for 10 miles (slowly). But also done 800 mile round trips towing another defender on a tri axle car trailer at 60 mph (the speed limit for towing a trailer).

Perhaps its time to get rig of the Suburban and get a car that's designed to tow trailers like a Land Rover LR4 or LR3 or a Defender or a Range Rover!
 
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Vtrover

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globallandrovers said:
Range Rovers, Discovery's and Defenders are designed to tow trailers, here in europe we tow all sorts of things with them from horse boxes, to food stalls, to cars, to tractors etc. If your trailer was wagging then your nose weight was too high or too low. I have towed 18 tonnes with a 300tdi defender for 10 miles (slowly). But also done 800 mile round trips towing another defender on a tri axle car trailer at 60 mph (the speed limit for towing a trailer).

Perhaps its time to get rig of the Suburban and get a car that's designed to tow trailers like a Land Rover LR4 or LR3 or a Defender or a Range Rover!
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Suburban actually has a slightly higher tow rating than the Range Rover, and an integrated brake controller. Looks like we have opposing views on this, that's ok, it was just an opinion based on an inordinate amount of towing in my life. You make a good point on proper tongue weight, and hitch height, which is critical. Unfortunately, not a lot of flexibility on tongue weight with a horse trailer, but infinitely adjustable with a flat bed with a vehicle on it.
 
jymmiejamz

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Vtrover said:
Suburban actually has a slightly higher tow rating than the Range Rover, and an integrated brake controller. Looks like we have opposing views on this, that's ok, it was just an opinion based on an inordinate amount of towing in my life. You make a good point on proper tongue weight, and hitch height, which is critical. Unfortunately, not a lot of flexibility on tongue weight with a horse trailer, but infinitely adjustable with a flat bed with a vehicle on it.
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I've never driven or towed with a Suburban, but I find it hard to believe it was struggling to tow 4k lbs. I've towed my heavily modified Range Rover Classic behind my mom's Range Rover through the mountains with no issue. No problem stopping and cruised at 75 mph uphill. A TDV6 Range Rover should have no problem at all.
 
WoldD90

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I towed my NAS 90ST loaded with all the off road gear, on a 7K car hauler, and my 97 P38 4.6 pulled fine. It was slow off the line, but it worked going to MAR.

I have a Yukon XL 2500 to pull it now, and it doesn't even it knows its there.

Does your Suburban have a brake controller? Trailer has brakes? You should have no problem at all at 5500 (4K for the horses and 1500 for the trailer.
 
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Vtrover

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Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a Suburban discussion. It's a half-ton, our old one seemed better, but the tail wag on this trip was terrible. It has a brake controller, and reasonable amount of power, but was getting pushed all over the road...long trip. I guess I'm spoiled with my Duramax. Sounds like the consensus is it will be fine, I just muddied the waters.
 
globallandrovers

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My experience with towing has been mostly with Defenders with large commercial hot air balloons, and Defenders with car trailers with other Defenders on. I use my P38 for long journeys for comfort, my 130 is still the best for towing though.


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Topperkenobi

Topperkenobi

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THANKS!

Guys,
Thanks for the advice and recommendations.
Of course a Suburban is a monster that can pull anything. But I had doubts about how much I can pull with my Range Rover.
The manual has this numbers:

TOWING
Unbraked trailer 1,653 lbs
Maximum towing 7,716 lbs
Maximum coupling point/nose weight 330 lbs
Maximum vehicle and trailer combination/ Gross Train Weight 14,440 lbs

Thanks for the recommendations on the flat bed and everything else. Hope i didn't upset anybody.
Loved the pictures.

JP
 
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