Tool Deals Thread

evilfij

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Not sure that this is a deal, so much as a good story and company to support. So when vise-grip aka Irwin closed down the vise-grip plant in Nebraska, Malco (known for USA made HVAC tools mainly) bought it, and have begun producing locking pliers there again (the imported current vise-grip are crap). They call them eagle grip snd sell to snap-on which rebrands them and sells them for more money (snap-on used to rebrand grip-on brand).

10in curved jaw is finally in stock at Amazon for $40, 7in is $36, straight jaw 10in is a bit more, but Amazon itself does not have them in stock.


I need more pliers like I need a hole in my head, but the Allen key on the end release and all the reviews which say they are the best, I had to order a set to compare with Gedore (the best I have), Knipex (not bad), and the crap vise-grips.
 

erover82

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Not sure that this is a deal, so much as a good story and company to support. So when vise-grip aka Irwin closed down the vise-grip plant in Nebraska, Malco (known for USA made HVAC tools mainly) bought it, and have begun producing locking pliers there again (the imported current vise-grip are crap). They call them eagle grip snd sell to snap-on which rebrands them and sells them for more money (snap-on used to rebrand grip-on brand).

10in curved jaw is finally in stock at Amazon for $40, 7in is $36, straight jaw 10in is a bit more, but Amazon itself does not have them in stock.


I need more pliers like I need a hole in my head, but the Allen key on the end release and all the reviews which say they are the best, I had to order a set to compare with Gedore (the best I have), Knipex (not bad), and the crap vise-grips.

I'd like to hear how they compare when you get them all in hand.
 

chris snell

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I’ve never broken a 1/4” or 3/8” drive ratchet, but I have broken one of my snap on 1/2” drive ratchets. Excluding bits, I’ve only broken a couple of chrome 3/8” sockets over years and I regularly use them with an impact

Funny, same here. I've only broken a 2' long 1/2" drive Snap-on ratchet. Promptly fixed, of course.
 

pmatusov

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About 18 years ago or so, we had a Discoweb group buy of a bunch of spare parts off a D1 being taken apart somewhere in San Ysidro, near the border. Don't laugh - at the time there was no aftermarket and dealer parts were ridiculously expensive.
Being closest to the place, I went and grabbed the parts as they were taken off. But the real treat was watching four Mexican guys of very average build taking apart the truck down to nothing in about two and a half hours. They didn't break or damage a single part; and all they used for fasteners is a set of 3/8" sockets and regular ratchet.
Whenever I pull a half-inch socket with a gorilla DeWalt or an 18" breaker bar, I hang my head in shame.
 

evilfij

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If the truck lived in a no salt area, that is completely doable. When I work on the new GT3 (or even the 993 which has no rust) it’s easy.

On the other hand, seeing the locals and me here strip a decades old rust bucket with a frame near split in half involves an IR2135ti impact with the compressor turned up all the way, 1/2in hand tools, locking pliers of every sort, a 36in pipe wrench, massive pry bars, chisels, punches, angle grinder, tin snips, sawzall, air hammer, and old blue (a 3lb drilling hammer). And even with all of that I have been thwarted, usually by the shafts of bolts seizing.
Then I try to do the same thing on a rust free fastener and it just spins out.
 
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evilfij

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Not a big Wiha fan, but they have a 4 for $100 deal where you get a multi tool, folding ruler, linesman pliers, and either wrenches or sockets. Basically 50% or more off if you go for the most expensive options (which I did except I got the socket set rather than a wrench set) and I got the 10 piece insulated set for $70 in a foam tray so I could get a free 6 in 1 too (my justification being that I wanted the square insulated screwdrivers).


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As an aside, the one thing Wiha has been showing on commercials which is not yet available is a european style tool cart. I hope they bring that to market for a good price as I did not get to harbor freight because I had to work.
 
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evilfij

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I found a “used—very good” Heuer 180 vise on Amazon US for $540. Said “comes in original packaging, packaging is damaged.” Well no sh** cardboard does not contain 60lbs of forged steel .... normal price is $737.

Given what the Heuer 160 went through without any damage, I figure the worst I get is some damaged paint or maybe a slightly bent handle.

As predicted, slightly bent handle. One small paint chip on one of the mounting feet. The bent handle is a particular issue on the 180 model as the handle is longer than on the 160 model.

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Thinking about the best way to straighten it (the handle ends are peened over so it’s not super easy to remove. Perhaps an excuse to get a nice shop press. Maybe I will call and see if Amazon gives me a few bucks off as I will say given the condition of the NEW box amazon shipped it in AND that I did not get a picture at delivery; the bent handle could have happened on this delivery as it was not mentioned in the sale listing.

Regardless, I am happy. I have come to the conclusion that these are, pound for pound, the best vises made. It was something I identified early as a want, and I have seen a lot of vises.

What makes them unusual is that they are forged steel. To be sure, there are other forged steel vises, most notably the rigid (red, not the Home Depot line) and the bessey(which may be the same as the ridgid). They are also made in Germany and now partly Turkey, but they have the dumbest handle design with rubber ends and have a swivel base that compromises strength. Still, an excellent vise (if you replace the handle with something sensible).



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evilfij

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Part 2

There is also a forged steel vise made in Taiwan, perhaps most prominently sold under the Capri brand (if the Hazet is not made by Heuer it may be this manufacturer), but they are basically the same price as a Heuer and I have not seen any quite as large as the 160/180 Heuer. (This 6in seems to be the largest but it is ~25% less weight than the 160 aka 6in Heuer or 6in bessey/rigid). And the rated PSI is much lower than the Heuer.


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Anyway, if you want a nice vise, the best vise at the 6in size (the 180 is a 160 with wider jaws and a longer handle, they are otherwise the same) get a Heuer. They also make a 160 removable jaw model which is cool if that’s what you want.

I have never seen a 160 or 180 tested to destruction, but a 120 model, which is MUCH smaller as you can see in the picture, got over 18,000lbs of clamping force before failure beating out things like a much bigger Wilton. The opening span is huge, and being forged steel, it won’t crack, it will start to flex/bend (and that point occurs when you put a 4ft cheater bar over the handle). The spindle is apparently hardened even. The design has been around for ~100 years and used ones cost what new ones do. If I can find the rear model DRP I think people call it, which I don’t think they have made in 50? plus years, they made one that’s even bigger than the 160/180 I’d pick it up and do a clean up/paint restoration (blue hammerite seems to be a paint match).

Bottom line: yes, the Heuer is expensive, even at 40-50% off sticker like I bought them, and a Chinese iron Wilton 6in is $150 and about the same size/weight and not a bad vise apparently, but the Heuers are just so nice. It’s one of those things where you see it and use it, even for something silly and basic like I did, and you just know it’s the best.
 
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evilfij

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This did not work out the way I hoped it would.
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I am not sure what they make the handle out of, but it ain’t mild steel, that’s for sure. Time to buy a press (40 ton ought to do it). Who has a deal?
 

evilfij

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Finally made it to harbor freight. So the Icon line of boxes seems pretty much as nice as snap-on. Of course, they are expensive .... 2k for a 56, 3k for a 72

I am pretty torn because the 56in and 72in US general ($800 and $1200) are nice, but not as nice as snap-on obviously. However, the one thing I don’t like about them is how tall they are as they are just too tall for my tastes.

Ugh. I wish wood were not stupid prices or I would make myself a work bench.
 
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jymmiejamz

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Finally made it to harbor freight. So the Icon line of boxes seems pretty much as nice as snap-on. Of course, they are expensive .... 2k for a 56, 3k for a 72

I am pretty torn because the 56in and 72in US general ($800 and $1200) are nice, but not as nice as snap-on obviously. However, the one thing I don’t like about them is how tall they are as they are just too tall for my tastes.

Ugh. I wish wood were not stupid prices or I would make myself a work bench.
Look for a Snap On KRL722 used
 

evilfij

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There is one local for $2500.

Not a huge fan of the color (mainly the red handles). I am trying to figure out what the part numbers mean. They must have some meaning, but it’s not obvious to me. Is there a decoder?

 
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evilfij

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I am back to the husky 72in. It’s 24in deep, and most importantly it’s the height I want, it has a hardwood top so I can mount my vise. And I don’t have more than literal ton of tools to put in it and it’s only $849. Only problem is it’s out of stock!
 

jymmiejamz

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There is one local for $2500.

Not a huge fan of the color (mainly the red handles). I am trying to figure out what the part numbers mean. They must have some meaning, but it’s not obvious to me. Is there a decoder?

I don’t know what the cart numbers mean, but for the boxes I would only want a KRL which is the master series. The KR and KRA are the classic and heritage series which feel pretty cheaply made in my opinion.
 
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