Slick shift r380

[John Z]

Anyone have the slick shift in the r380. I was curious about how yours feels specifically in 5th.

I just had it installed and the installer did a less than steller job and now I'm paranoid there is more wrong.

The thing in wondering about is when I shift to 5th, it goes in fine but it still has left right play which seems weird to me
Attached is a 5 second video about what I mean.

I already know I need a new turret cause mine has a bit of play, but this seems odd to me.

New video by John Z

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[4RF RDS]

Yes I have it installed in my 110 and that should be happening but it seems a bit sloppy??? I just checked mine and it moves about that much. Are the bias springs properly adjusted?

 

[John Z]

The turret itself is worm causing some extra play while in the 3/4 position.

I'll adjust the springs better when I get the new turret in. I just thought it was weird it would have that much side to side motion when in 5th. It doesn't do that in 1-4.

 

[4RF RDS]

I believe it is the reverse spring actuating in a more pronounced way as the slick shift really shortens the throw. If you push it to the right it’ll go back into reverse from there. As I said mine does that and has since installation. I love mi e and it makes the drive so much more civilized .

cheers

 

[Napalm00]

It the turret is even remotely worn you should replace it, it a sloppy part to begin with.

I wish my truck was this easy to shift. My brand new Ashcroft rebuild takes grunt to get it in and out of almost all gears. Even rechecked the selector forks and everything

 

[4RF RDS]

It the turret is even remotely worn you should replace it, it a sloppy part to begin with.

I wish my truck was this easy to shift. My brand new Ashcroft rebuild takes grunt to get it in and out of almost all gears. Even rechecked the selector forks and everything

What fluid are you using? incorrect fluids can make it super hard to shift.

 

[Napalm00]

It's a brand new rebuild, ended on redline MTL. I've drained and filled with 3 different types including mtf and swepco

I talked to Ashcroft about it when I called them to express my disappointment that the LT230 that I purchased from them had a crack in the output housing.

Verified all the measurements nothing they could do, just a sloppy build.

 

[MountainD]

Napalm, you already know this, but for others that have shifting selector issues:m

At the bottom of the gearstick is a cone shaped 'turret', if you lift the rubber boot covering it you will see 2 springs which rest on 2 bolts, when you let go of the gearstick these springs return the stick to the 3/4 plane, sometimes the rest position of the stick needs adjusting to agree with the gearbox selectors.

To work out which way to adjust it you will have to drive the vehicle but instead of letting the stick go where it wants to go try holding it a little to the left and then a little to the right, one way or the other it will drop in cleaner, adjust the bolts to lean the stick over accordingly and remove any play in the stick.

(my notes from Dave Ashcroft…. mainly for the resting position of the gear shift when it’s free floating but this aligns it with the right slot that it should go into…)

 

[jymmiejamz]

It's a brand new rebuild, ended on redline MTL. I've drained and filled with 3 different types including mtf and swepco

Why aren’t you running the fluid Land Rover and Ashcroft recommend?

 

[Napalm00]

Why aren’t you running the fluid Land Rover and Ashcroft recommend?

Mtf is what they recommend Ashcroft and lr. Shifts were even worse. Hence draining swapping to swepco, then standard ATF , then landing on redline MTL.

I'll also say after the first drain the fluid was filthy, I'm really not happy with the purchase obviously but it works.good enough.

Trans also leaks from the iron to aluminum case joint. Quality just isn't what it used to be there.

 

[jymmiejamz]

The last couple of Ashcroft units I got recommended Dex III ATF. That’s also what we’ve used at ever LR dealer I’ve worked

 

[Napalm00]

Why aren’t you running the fluid Land Rover and Ashcroft recommend?

The last couple of Ashcroft units I got recommended Dex III ATF. That’s also what we’ve used at ever LR dealer I’ve worked

Sticker on the unit and when in contact with them said MTF. The ATF I used in one of the fills was mobile 1 , and that is dex3 compat. First fill from virgin dry was with MTF. At that same time I was fighting all sorts of master and slave issues because of the LOF power master not being compatible with a fresh clutch.

Still shifted like I was rowing through a cereal box.

It's much better now but still not even as good as my LT77 that had over 600k on it. This is my last Land Rover designed transmission that I'll be buying. I'll keep the TDI and do a conversion possibly to the 6-speed like Zach did. But that's well off I'm going to use this and suffer through it for years because I bought it and I'm too fucking cheap.

 

[John Z]

Sticker on the unit and when in contact with them said MTF. The ATF I used in one of the fills was mobile 1 , and that is dex3 compat. First fill from virgin dry was with MTF. At that same time I was fighting all sorts of master and slave issues because of the LOF power master not being compatible with a fresh clutch.

Still shifted like I was rowing through a cereal box.

It's much better now but still not even as good as my LT77 that had over 600k on it. This is my last Land Rover designed transmission that I'll be buying. I'll keep the TDI and do a conversion possibly to the 6-speed like Zach did. But that's well off I'm going to use this and suffer through it for years because I bought it and I'm too fucking cheap.

Had I known the r380 was that bad I should have done that.i actually swapped out that lof master for the dorman unit. My only concern is the adjustment. Again, I didn't do it so I'm only hoping it was done right .

 

[Napalm00]

It really isn't all that bad. I just got a bunk one and I've been salty about it ever since.

I've installed probably 10 of these and of course the one that I put in my own truck has to be fucked

 

[jymmiejamz]

Sticker on the unit and when in contact with them said MTF. The ATF I used in one of the fills was mobile 1 , and that is dex3 compat. First fill from virgin dry was with MTF. At that same time I was fighting all sorts of master and slave issues because of the LOF power master not being compatible with a fresh clutch.

Still shifted like I was rowing through a cereal box.

It's much better now but still not even as good as my LT77 that had over 600k on it. This is my last Land Rover designed transmission that I'll be buying. I'll keep the TDI and do a conversion possibly to the 6-speed like Zach did. But that's well off I'm going to use this and suffer through it for years because I bought it and I'm too fucking cheap.

Just looking at their website, This is the fluid they recommend.

 

[Napalm00]

Just looking at their website, This is the fluid they recommend.

I'm telling you man said MTF right on the unit, blue sticker and they said the same when I called them .

Even if that's the fluid the mobile one is equivalent, still shifted like shit.

It's not the fluid

 

[jymmiejamz]

Fully agreed that Ashcroft produces a shit product.

FWIW, this is from the workshop manual.

 

[Napalm00]

This is one of those times that being a Land Rover owner is so irritating. Lol

I appreciate the info. I'm hoping one day I'll get this solved but for now I just drive it around and cringe sometimes when I have to jam it into gear

 

[MountainD]

I just happen to have one sitting here, also a brand new(ly rebuilt…) ashcroft R380 (and LT230)… which says “fill with MTF94).

I’ve run both ATF, Redline and Royal Purple MTFs and both MTFs are superior on synchro for worn, but haven’t noticed much of a difference otherwise In summer. In WINTER, mtf worked better. I’ve had multiple LT77,s and R380s in various trucks For 23 years or so… loads of seat time and miles. Never had a failure but did get a rebuilt once it continually snicks in summer….

so far, Ashcroft has treated me well. But I’ve heard quality has slipped. I’ll find out shortly…

 

[MountainD]

Also, interestingly enough…

but sorry for the hijack. I’ll move on