Power steering hose leak

Uncle Douglas

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FWIW my local Parker store has a machine where they can cut off a steel line and weld/solder on their proprietary barb or whatever it is and then crimp on the hose. Machine does it all in a minute or two. Adds $7 to the cost of the hose being made. As Bill says we have also had stub adapters made where the rover hardine is cut off just above the steering box and 8n male fitting welded on and then female 8n hose to the pump for the high pressure side. This is what we do with the Cummins install. AN fittings are the industrial standard in this country and make it so if you ever have a hydraulic issue in the future, pretty much any hose store to include most NAPA locations can make you a new one in a few mins for short $.
 
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Napalm00

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Tbaumer

What pump part number do you plan to use on the engine in the end? the early pump that uses the banjo to an-6 or the late modell pump that uses a oring screw in fitting?

What steering box do you have? 4bolt, 6 bolt, ect

LHD we have that!



Ok I reread the thread. The hose style to removed looks like NTC5000 it has the built in banjo not a an-6 to threaded banjo as seen on TDIs

image stolen from rovahfarm, buy from him !
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This will only work with your early pump, not with the replacement pump you bought
 
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O2batsea

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I don't know what prompted Land Rover engineers to go with the underpowered and weird pumps (with like zero reservoir capacity) but they downright suck. I would love to come up with a Saginaw pump adapter that would work on diesels and v8.
 

Napalm00

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I don't know what prompted Land Rover engineers to go with the underpowered and weird pumps (with like zero reservoir capacity) but they downright suck. I would love to come up with a Saginaw pump adapter that would work on diesels and v8.


problem is that type 1 saginaw pumps are way to big to fit in the stock 200tdi/2.5na/2.5td location without major modification

I am doing electric powersteering conversion using a brushless non-canbus pump
 

O2batsea

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problem is that type 1 saginaw pumps are way to big to fit in the stock 200tdi/2.5na/2.5td location without major modification

I am doing electric powersteering conversion using a brushless non-canbus pump
The remote reservoir Saginaw pumps aren't that much bigger
 

Uncle Douglas

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Love to see someone do a hydroboost setup on a defender. The cummins pump seemigly makes enough pressure.
 

Napalm00

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The remote reservoir Saginaw pumps aren't that much bigger

I bought one and tried to fit it the diameter was too large to fit in between the frame rail and the arc of the mount and allow for adjustment. I ended up returning it to go the electric route .

I'd love to see it done tho . The LR pumps are overpriced basura
 

Tbaumer

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Okay - I have the NLA P#NTC8191 on its way. Because I have two (2) of the early style pumps I will check on the NTC5000 hose. I also have the new 200tdi pump, so the almost-impossible-to-find hose will fit that. I also like the thought of easy to obtain hoses/fittings as suggested. This is the way I do things with this 110 - Keep collecting parts until it has no choice but to go together!
 

Tbaumer

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Finishing this - The NTC5000 didn't work out. I don't know if it was made wrong or for a RHD. The built in banjo was the same as my existing one & the bent fitting on the other end was also the same, but rotated a different direction (see pics) & no amount of twisting would mate the ends up without A LOT of hose stress or no clearance from the alternator. I wound up removing the threaded banjo fitting from a new power steering pump I have & using that fitting on my existing pump with the only NTC8191 hose I can find anywhere. No more leaks.

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