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chris snell

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I need a new glass for my sedimenter. Or, better yet, an all-steel replacement.
 

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chris snell

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Thanks, Robert!

I picked up a short section of 1/4" hard brake line tube at NAPA today and now I have a "trail fix" kit for fuel lines. After some roadside bloody knuckles, the truck is running again.

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Dan kemper

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I do like the utility of being able to see what is going on in there with the glass however. Nice roadside repair
 

chris snell

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Robert,

Bad news: the replacement metal bowl is much taller than the glass bowl. The bottom of the sedimenter can no longer clear the frame in its position tucked up underneath the tub. I could move the sedimenter out to the wheel well but this is a bad idea because a rock could cut the fuel hose.

To work for me, the metal bowl would have to match the height of the glass piece.

Can you send me another glass piece Priority Mail and I will send you back the metal bowl? If you can send me a Paypal invoice or post the total for the parts and all of this shipping, I will pay you.

I'm running up against a deadline and I'm hoping you can help. :)

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RDavisinVA

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The metal bowl is EXACTLY the same length as the metal sleeve, glass bowl, metal bottom combination you have.
They both use the EXACT same through bolt.
Measure the distance from the top housing casting to the bottom on both setups... they are the same length.

So you remove the 3 pieces below the cast housing and replace it with what I sent you.
Then you discard the fractured glass and send me the short top sleeve and the metal bottom and the 2 viton seals.
You keep the top viton seal that goes in the cast housing.
The metal sleeve I sent you has a metal bottom and O-ring to seal it against the bottom of the new sleeve.

Good luck buddy!
 

RDavisinVA

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Here's a picture pf what you'll have when you follow the instructions in post #9:
 

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steinhnj

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So which is better Robert? Glass or all metal?

I recently replaced my fuel filter. I have the recommended RD set up (sedimenter->12V fuel pump) and after replacing the filter it was stupid simple to turn the key, watch the glass fill up with diesel, vent the filter assembly and fire it right up. It was also easy to see some grime in the bottom of the glass bowl.
 

RDavisinVA

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So which is better Robert? Glass or all metal?

I recently replaced my fuel filter. I have the recommended RD set up (sedimenter->12V fuel pump) and after replacing the filter it was stupid simple to turn the key, watch the glass fill up with diesel, vent the filter assembly and fire it right up. It was also easy to see some grime in the bottom of the glass bowl.

Think it is a matter of preference.
Both work equally well.
I have run them both.
I did make some spin-on prototypes that also worked well, but they cost about $100 more.
 

chris snell

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Ha, thanks, Robert. I should have read the directions.

If anybody is doing this change-over, you have to pull the entire body/bracket off the truck to get the metal bowl to fit, but it does. Barely. If you're drilling your frame for this, try to put the whole contraption up as high as you can so that it clears the frame.

 

chris snell

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Robert, I'll drop the parts in the mail to you tomorrow. Can you send me your shipping address?

Thanks!
 

chris snell

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If you're going to go with the metal bowl, be sure to add a flush to your oil change checklist. It's easy to forget about it if you can't see the crap build up. It looked like conglomerate rock on the bottom of my glass bowl when I pulled it off.
 

RDavisinVA

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If you're going to go with the metal bowl, be sure to add a flush to your oil change checklist. It's easy to forget about it if you can't see the crap build up. It looked like conglomerate rock on the bottom of my glass bowl when I pulled it off.

You just have to love a sedimenter.
They catch so much particulate and water, saving the filter and IP from all that schmeckle.
 

RDavisinVA

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If you're going to go with the metal bowl, be sure to add a flush to your oil change checklist. It's easy to forget about it if you can't see the crap build up. It looked like conglomerate rock on the bottom of my glass bowl when I pulled it off.

The bottom nut on the center bolt unscrews to drain out all the stuff that gets collected out of the fuel.
A sedimenter will catch 99% of the moisture and particulate.
 

chris snell

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The bottom nut on the center bolt unscrews to drain out all the stuff that gets collected out of the fuel.
A sedimenter will catch 99% of the moisture and particulate.

I can confirm that the sedimenter does keep it very clean. There was a couple of millimeters of funk on the bottom of the glass but the screen in my lift pump was almost clean, just a few small rust pieces.

I can tell you that draining the sedimenter with the petcock on the bottom isn't enough to get it clean of sediment, though. I've done that before and it did get the water and some of the funk but there was still a lot when I pulled the bowl. In the future, I'll probably pull the bowl once a year and clean it. A 12V pump will make refilling it easy. :)
 

SummitRover

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I understand the concept of this device. I could not look back any further for more history on the topic. What is the need or idea of adding this? Does the factory fuel filter not filter and separate well enough? I have not heard of any problems to warrant adding another filter or catch device. Could this work as a catch can for the motor also to avoid routing the recirculated oil vapors back into the air filter as was originally designed? I apologize if these questions have been asked before or are elementary. I did search for history. Thanks
 
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