"Help shape the future of Land Rover"

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vtlandrover

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I got a solicitation for a 90-minute interview labeled, "research" into "future development of Land Rover products." If I get picked, I'll be asking for input - beyond complaints regarding badging/identification. My initial thoughts reflect a fair bit of what was addressed in the Grenadier thread. I am encouraged by this, as it's a solicitation directed to the NAS market, which has often been an afterthought IMO (althought I did wonder if the LWB RRC was the result of US consumers).
 
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vtlandrover

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Will do.

As I enter my 32nd year of Land Rover ownership and await arrival of my 23rd (+?) Rover daily driver (a '96 300 Tdi 90), I feel pretty well versed in the marque... beginning with a series of Series IIAs, progressing on to 4 years on the phones at RN/driving school instructor in the mid-90s, and owning just about one of each (except a f/c) has given me a front seat experience. From a family of LR enthusiasts (I did screw a series badge into my mother's casket, after all), I'm also very pleased with my '22 "Defender" and take seriously the conversations and criticisms raised on this forum. It would be my hope that an engineer will be asking the questions and not someone from marketing or one of the 'independent research' groups... something more akin to the Grenadier roll out some have gotten to participate in. If the word "lifestyle" is uttered, I'm hanging up.
 
erover82

erover82

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They'd have to perform a near complete about-face to serve the kind of customers that frequent this forum. It's hard to imagine that at this point. Their best bet would be to purchase Grenadier from Ineos because any theoretical shift back towards utilitarian products would be many years to fruition. Again, I can't see them eating a humble pie that gargantuan. It's an interesting opportunity though. Eager to hear how it goes.
 
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D901560

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KGH said:
Ralf Sarek and Bob Steele both broke right side rear shaft/CVs at SCARR. JLR should probably know about that.Those
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Those trucks were lifted with larger tires so I doubt they would be covered under warranty.
 
RBBailey

RBBailey

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You can do all you need in one move, without a single word. Just print this photo, and hold it up for them to read:


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jymmiejamz

jymmiejamz

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rocky said:
If they warranty the shafts, they will know about it.
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Not necessarily. A failure like that should result in an Electronic Parts Quality Report from the technician working on it, but techs don’t get paid for that so it rarely gets done. Land Rover might ask for the broken component back, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to do an investigation on it. My guess is they use the returned part to be reimbursed by the part supplier.
 
Classic4X4

Classic4X4

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RBBailey said:
You can do all you need in one move, without a single word. Just print this photo, and hold it up for them to read:
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I reserved a grenadier - I worry slim chances they're actually available beginning of next year

I have a friend who was among the first to order the new bronco - its been built and "awaiting a chip" for nearly a year
 
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pfshoen

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Grenadier's reception in the marketplace will be instructional, although not sure that's a direction they'd be interested in.
Doubtful that the current team at JLR would even consider going back to the future.
I'm guessing they picked vtlandrover because he bought a new Def, not because he has gobs of experience with "obsolete" models.
JLR's idea of making their current product line more better has little or nothing to do with the wants and needs of old school Roverphiles.
They already know and have been told the score and could give a flying eff. And that's pretty much how I feel about them.
 
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vtlandrover

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For sure I'm only on the email list because of my purchase last year.

I do wonder what's being said about the current offerings over on the Jaguar forums... no familiarity with the marque at all, aside from admiring certian older models from afar. As I write this, I've just looked at the jaguarusa site for the first time to find it strikingly similar to that of LR.
 
Robert

Robert

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theres at least 1 new "defender" at every intersection in my hood. do they really need input from 30 year old vehicle enthusiasts?
 
RBBailey

RBBailey

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I can't figure how Land Rover can STILL be so bad at building cars. How is it possible that the computer interface alone in vehicles like BMW, Tesla, and Rivian are so much better than this long standing company? I saw a Rivian up close the other day, and the build quality is easily on par with what Land Rover is doing. Innovation is on another level. Then you throw in what Grenadier is doing, and it just makes LR look more and more pathetic. Long live the (old) Defender! At least it was honest.
 
blueboy

blueboy

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RBBailey said:
I can't figure how Land Rover can STILL be so bad at building cars. How is it possible that the computer interface alone in vehicles like BMW, Tesla, and Rivian are so much better than this long standing company? I saw a Rivian up close the other day, and the build quality is easily on par with what Land Rover is doing. Innovation is on another level. Then you throw in what Grenadier is doing, and it just makes LR look more and more pathetic. Long live the (old) Defender! At least it was honest.
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And your comment would be my input for the future of the company. Start designing /manufacturing vehicles with reliability/quality in mind. They will probably not go back to utilitarian vehicles yet whatever the product offering is at least have it a quality product.
 
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