Grenadier

pmatusov

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Even with 3rd row seats, the LR4 loadspace folds completely flat, allowing for a 6' tall, dirtbag fisherman to catch some zzzz's. Quite comfortably.

Not apparently so with the Grenadier.
It appears very easy with the Grenadier. Take off the rear seats, and the seat base is level with the cargo floor.
In a way, it is exactly as I live with the Classic - whenever I'm on a long trip, the rear seats come out and the boxes fill the gap to make the floor flat.
 

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pfshoen

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Black Sheep spare wheel gas can is great. Their rock sliders/steps actually function as both, since the steps are lower than the threshold.
Angle of pic of crew cab exaggerates the length of the bed. The spare fits in it without much room left over.
Still kind of the same aproach of the Newfender 130, extending the chassis without changing the wheelbase. Not good for the departure angle.
 

erover82

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Black Sheep spare wheel gas can is great. Their rock sliders/steps actually function as both, since the steps are lower than the threshold.
Angle of pic of crew cab exaggerates the length of the bed. The spare fits in it without much room left over.
Still kind of the same aproach of the Newfender 130, extending the chassis without changing the wheelbase. Not good for the departure angle.

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Similar proportions, except that the 130 sweeps up at the rear which IMO works better.
 

erover82

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I don’t understand the appeal of this body style. Similar to the Gladiator, such a small bed kills the usefulness, while making the rear body unmanageable.

Short bed pickups work well for me. I want enough room to throw a fridge/cooler, fire wood, tools, animals, dirty clothes, chainsaw, etc in the back where I'm not subject to its smells, rattles, and projectile potential. I also like being able to throw things in the back, or retrieve them, without opening doors. The tailgate also makes a great work and sitting surface.
 

luckyjoe

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Short bed pickups work well for me. I want enough room to throw a fridge/cooler, fire wood, tools, animals, dirty clothes, chainsaw, etc in the back where I'm not subject to its smells, rattles, and projectile potential. I also like being able to throw things in the back, or retrieve them, without opening doors. The tailgate also makes a great work and sitting surface.
I do agree with this, except can’t even fit my fat bike any of these beds with both wheels mounted. If I’m going to take the front wheel off, I may as well have it out of the weather too. Conversely, I have no use for a full-size PU.
 

pfshoen

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The configuration has drawbacks and isn't for everyone, but crew cab short beds are super popular.
The bed on the Hi-Cap 130 extends past the rear x-member with no bumper.
Cargo may be hauled with the tailgate down. A bike or m/c may be placed at a diagonal.
Odd that Rover never built a Defender Classic station wagon 127-130. The Newfender 130 is a SW. Gren should do the same.
I'm not in love with extending the bodies without lengthening the wheelbase, tho.
 

jymmiejamz

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I’ll never understand the appeal of an open pickup bed. I have a cap on the bed of my F250 99% of the time. Sometimes I remove it if I have to haul something that gets loaded with a forklift, but that’s about the only time I have it off.
 

blueboy

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I’ll never understand the appeal of an open pickup bed. I have a cap on the bed of my F250 99% of the time. Sometimes I remove it if I have to haul something that gets loaded with a forklift, but that’s about the only time I have it off.
Then why purchase a p/u? Just curious.
 

jymmiejamz

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Then why purchase a p/u? Just curious.
I do a lot of defender rebuilds which involves taking heavy parts (axles and suspension) to the powder coater, engines to the machine shop, and also towing on a regular basis. I probably don’t need a 3/4 ton truck, but the interior space is hard to beat in the F250.

When I have one painted, I take it in pieces to the body shop, so having the cap on The bed is great. Doug C had a freshly painted door fly out of the bed of his truck on the highway, which got run over by other traffic 😂
 

evilfij

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Pick up is nice for garbage picking, furniture, mulch, stone etc. Toyota has a plastic bed which is fantastic as it does not rust or dent.
 

michael67

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You can't pull a 5th wheel or gooseneck without a bed, and short beds don't cut pulling a 5th wheel without a special hitch. Also nice to have a bed if you're hauling material - sand, rock, concrete, etc... can make a mess of an enclosed cargo area, even if it's bagged. Also hauling away the occasional pest that gets caught in a live trap - it's no fun riding around with the odor of raccoon or opossum urine and feces. If the Grenadier wants to tout itself as a truck, it should be OK to treat it as a truck.
 
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