Grenadier

Angus

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Gwyn Lewis 4x4 sells underbody mudshields for Defs that keep some of the muck off important bits.
I installed a set of these (front and back of rear wheels, and behind the front wheels) and they do a great job of keeping gunk from being flung on the frame.
 

Eliot

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Minor, but nice detail... in their "Journey Across Australia" video from last week, there's a couple of scenes of them preparing the vehicles. One shows the bonnet leaning against the windscreen - allowing full access to the engine bay.

That was a detail I liked on my W124. There was a stretch mode, where you could extend the hood much further back.
 

WreckITFrank

Technical Excellence Contributor
Why 18's? Being out-of-touch with modern wheel sizes, I asked the local 4WD place and they emphatically said, "go 17's 100%" !

I'm also going with (5) alloy wheels. This strategy served me well for 16-years on my D1.
just preference at this point. aside from my defenders, i have not had a sub 18" wheel on a vehicle since before 2006. I dont need the extra tire picking up my kid from daycare and hitting up home depot for the house projects. Im not against, but prefer the look of a good size tire without additional sidewall. 18" seems the easy sweet spot for tire availability and price these days, and everyone has one.
 
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evilfij

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just preference at this point. aside from my defenders, i have not had a sub 18" wheel on a vehicle since before 2006. I dont need the extra tire picking up my kid from daycare and hitting up home depot for the house projects. Im not against, but prefer the look of a good size tire without additional sidewall. 18" seems the easy sweet spot for any tire on the planet these days.
I will say that 16in and 17in allow you to curb the tire without wheel damage ….
 

WreckITFrank

Technical Excellence Contributor
I will say that 16in and 17in allow you to curb the tire without wheel damage ….
the lexota has plenty of sidewall to protect?...even my LR3 in stock was curb damage free (plus my wife didn't drive it :p)

Im happy to have options with the grenadier, and 2 sizes of steelies is cool. now if they could only re-engineer to have lay flat 2nd row seats, id feel better about life.


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brdhmltn

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Idk how anyone expects to sell new diesels with the requirement to keep the fuel additive tank full, especially if, as in the case of Rovers, it can only be filled by a dealer.
I've put 40k miles on my 17 RRS TDV6. DPF has only been filled 3ish times. The dealer warned me that there were issues with certain brands of DPF. I've filled it myself once on a trip, avoided the brands they said, and haven't had any issues. Otherwise dealer fills it as it was under CPO. I'm not scared of filling it. I will say the wing top design under the hood collects a lot of trash and it's extremely easy to get trash inside the dpf tank if you don't clean first.

Fuels are becoming regional. Diesel still makes a lot of sense in my area. Not in other places though. This engine has been basic maintenance only with the exception of a gunked up throttle blade when I bought it from too much city idling. This RRS has been a road trip monster. Comfortable and I've nearly hit 500 miles a tank when semi hypermiling.

My TDV6 has been so unexpectedly good that I've waffled a little on my grenadier reservation. If the grenadier had the TDV6 or any TDV6 had way less electronics to crap out eventually, that would be my ideal vehicle.

I was very anti dpf prior to this vehicle and it was my biggest worry when buying. Total non issue now.
 

evilfij

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I feel like the GX does not have enough sidewall to protect the (shiny black 18in) wheels. Taco, RRC, Defenders I can park on a curb by braile.

At some point the GX will get 17in 4runner wheels.
 

Adam

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I've put 40k miles on my 17 RRS TDV6. DPF has only been filled 3ish times. The dealer warned me that there were issues with certain brands of DPF. I've filled it myself once on a trip, avoided the brands they said, and haven't had any issues. Otherwise dealer fills it as it was under CPO. I'm not scared of filling it. I will say the wing top design under the hood collects a lot of trash and it's extremely easy to get trash inside the dpf tank if you don't clean first.

Fuels are becoming regional. Diesel still makes a lot of sense in my area. Not in other places though. This engine has been basic maintenance only with the exception of a gunked up throttle blade when I bought it from too much city idling. This RRS has been a road trip monster. Comfortable and I've nearly hit 500 miles a tank when semi hypermiling.

My TDV6 has been so unexpectedly good that I've waffled a little on my grenadier reservation. If the grenadier had the TDV6 or any TDV6 had way less electronics to crap out eventually, that would be my ideal vehicle.

I was very anti dpf prior to this vehicle and it was my biggest worry when buying. Total non issue now.


I've also been pleasantly surprised by the tdv6 in my 2017 Disco. I've recently had a NoX sensor go bad and def fluid quality complaints from the ECU - no reoccurring yet... Extended warranty resolved it.

UJ Alum Brad - great site.
 

mgreenspan

Founding Member
Man I could see that pickup version being offered as a complete hardtop with third row eventually. It looks really good as a pickup.
 

vtlandrover

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Are Jeep Gladiators as plentiful in your neck of the woods as they are in northern Vermont? I'd say it's a 1:4 ratio of 2019+ Gladiator: Wrangler. Which is to say there's a lot of them.
 

mgreenspan

Founding Member
I’d say 1:10 here in Memphis. We have more of the 2500 series lifted mega trucks and a lot of 2wd 1500s lifted the same.

Loads of Land Cruisers/LXs/and GXs. Almost more than Jeeps, but I think that’s frequency illusion because I drive a GX.
 

pfshoen

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The Hi-Cap bed was 'inspired' by the Toyota. It's wider than the body. The Gren proto is similar to the standard Rover box, in line with body contours.
I vote for a 2-way tailgate.
Short bed pickup crew cabs are everywhere I go.
 

TJS

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For those that are as interested as I am in these things, here's a list of ring gear diameters along with axle housing tube diameters for front and rear axle assemblies offered by the Carraro Group. I found these numbers about a year and a half ago but forgot I had them. All axles listed here are full floating type. Which one is being fitted to the Grenadier is unknown to me. Ineos may have specified a custom configuration but, other than width and spring perch attachment points, I somehow think that unlikely. Carraro's center sections appear to be cast and correspond roughly to many Dana Corporation components. They offer open, limited slip, and fully locked differentials for each size. The assemblies are sized by several other parameters including dynamic and peak load limits as well as gearing options. From smallest to largest sets they are:

185mm (7.28346") Ring Gear Diameter w/67.5mm (2.65748") Tube Diameter.

215mm (8.46457") Ring Gear Diameter w/76.1mm (2.996063") Tube Diameter.

220mm (8.66142") Ring Gear Diameter w/76.1mm (2.996063") Tube Diameter.

250mm (9.84252") Ring Gear Diameter w/88.9mm (3.5") Tube Diameter.

275mm (10.8628") Ring Gear Diameter w/101.6mm (4.0") Tube Diameter.

There is a smaller semi-floating rigid (rear) axle offered as well as two even larger ring gears/housings offered for rear/rigid configurations. Dana 44 ring gears are considered 216mm/8.5" and 226mm/8.8" for old and new style. Dana 60s are 9.75". Carraro also seems to offer some type of portal axle but I believe those to be for heavy industry.
 
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