Grenadier
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FlyersFan76
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Jim Ratcliffe sits down in the latest video.
Electric 90 version
Pickup
Double Cab cutaway
CDN38
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I'm headed to one of the reveal events in Vancouver on the 14th. Looking forward to seeing the truck up close and personal.
Funny thing is, I'm now starting to question myself... would I actually sell my Defender to own a Grenadier? Would I give up 20 years of Defender ownership for something else?
Funny thing is, I'm now starting to question myself... would I actually sell my Defender to own a Grenadier? Would I give up 20 years of Defender ownership for something else?
KND
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I received an email for that unfortunately they don't have one close to me.
KND
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That was the question that asked by my wife as well, I told her that I will keep my 1997 Defender 90 for my first born and sell the other.
She satisfied the answer and we chose the configuration together.
mgreenspan
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I built my 1985 110 for the purpose of making it my forever truck. I bought it when I was stationed in the UK in 2009 with 48,xxx original miles. Ultimately converted it to the Mazda SL35TI and a 1.003 trade ratio for daily driving pleasure and lower noise levels. I planned on never selling it.
I ultimately sold it when I bought a 1965 88” project and picked up my brother’s Jeep Grand Cherokee when he moved to Germany. I just wasn’t driving it as much because the Jeep had AC and was an easy daily even though it got half the mpg of my 110.
Fast forward a few years and we relocate to the UK, but I still work in the US. My vehicle in the US is my wife’s old GX470.
In retrospect I should have sold the 110 sooner and only owned Lexus or Toyota SUVs. They don’t break, are quiet, work great off-road, have massive amounts of aftermarket off-road parts, and the Land Cruiser vehicles all feel similar to the Land Rover products with maybe slightly less of that unexplainable feel that a Defender or Discovery has when driving.
The purpose of my long winded post is that in my opinion is that the Grenadier is going to be the combination of that unexplainable feeling and the dependability and comfort of the Toyota products. It seems like they’ve built it with all of this in mind rather than simply as a designer accessory with a heritage namesake. The new Defenders are great daily vehicles, but so is a Honda Odyssey, Kia Telluride, Nissan Murano, etc. The Grenadier is basically everything that I want in a vehicle. Just hope the price stays where I want it because the paid off GX470 I use in the US and the 1998 KZJ 95 Land Cruiser I use in the UK don’t need to be replaced.
FlyersFan76
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I have nothing but positive reactions to the Gren and Sir Jim, in contrast to the Pretender and the ponce that runs JLR Design.
Although the Gren is the spiritual successor to the Def, it's not a replacement.
Compare empty weights and payloads, and analog vs digital features.
Although the Gren is the spiritual successor to the Def, it's not a replacement.
Compare empty weights and payloads, and analog vs digital features.
WreckITFrank
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all i got for this is a 
1of40
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I believe they are concerned about the US market. New car buyers want nationwide warranty support and I have doubts Gren is going to be able to lock that in. BMW is not likely to support them, just as they did not support Land Rover.
Angus
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Ever try to run down to the local Tesla dealer?
WreckITFrank
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Agreed, but they are going into it with that understanding, but on a global scale. Do you think that's it, or more the current state of the economy?
Similar sentiment, and while I will NOT sell my '65 IIa 109, I am very ready to sell my rust-free, low-mileage RRC LWB to take a chance with the Grenadier. I think having "old" and new is right up my alley.
Yes and no. I won't commit to anything until I know the price and I am sure there are others who think the same way. Even if the deposit is refundable I don't want to waste my time waiting to find it is 2 or 3 times the price of a new Bronco or the same price as a G Wagon. My other concern is what dealership in my neighborhood will warranty what goes wrong on a first year, first produced product for them. Way to many variables in this venture with little info being released. I wish them well and hope it is a rock solid product that I can own one day but I remember the DeLorean and its failure.
WreckITFrank
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i hope they are still going with the "nicely equipped bronco statement." im still in if the price falls in line there. I really like my recently acquired LR4, but not loving the now frequent CEL's, lower control arm bushings, alignment, and water on the pass floor with 52k miles. im rolling the dice with it daily anyway.
TravelinLight
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Did anyone make it to Overland West to see it this weekend? Any new information or updates?