GM 292 Straight 6 - Yet another conversion

The Dro

Illustrious
Have not calculated any mileage results yet as am running twin carbs, temporarily until the EFI is installed. These came with one of the 292 engines that was listed on Craigslist and since I am still in the prototype mode am not concerned with the current mileage.
It'll be good to know the current mileage with the twin carbs.
 

ezzzzzzz

Well-known member
These carbs are over jetted AND Robert can't keep his foot out of the throttle! As such, any mileage ratings are questionable at this time. :D
 

85RED110

Well-known member
Any data is better than no data. I'm curious if, with even over-jetted carbs and a lead foot, he's getting better than the 13 mpg that my V8 gets. If so, then I'll be starting to save my pennies.

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dcg

Well-known member
For the A/C compressor and power steering pump brackets, what was decision for making them out of steel instead of milled aluminum?

I don't know about such things, so maybe the answer is obvious. I would think cost would be lower on the steel brackets (and one fab source) and easier to prototype. A little weight savings would be the advantage of the aluminum brackets, but dissimilar metals may be a factor.
 

RDavisinVA

Technical Excellence Contributor
For the A/C compressor and power steering pump brackets, what was decision for making them out of steel instead of milled aluminum?

I don't know about such things, so maybe the answer is obvious. I would think cost would be lower on the steel brackets (and one fab source) and easier to prototype. A little weight savings would be the advantage of the aluminum brackets, but dissimilar metals may be a factor.

Strength and because there is so much welding, steel is easier to weld and will not warp and shrink as much when heated.
Besides I can weld the steel prototype parts, but not aluminum ones.
Lastly, I already had the steel to make what I needed.
Good question, though...
 

The Dro

Illustrious
Robert I've been meaning to ask.



What did you end up doing for the down pipe?


I couldn't find a picture showing the exhaust.
 

rocky

NAS-ROW Addict
I would be surprised if it?s mpg much better than the V8. It wasn?t known as a gas miser in Chevy?s.
 

GynormousMellon

Well-known member
The more I read about LS and Cummins engine swaps and all the various fabrications needed, I'm leaning more and more toward this setup as it seems like the right thing for me. Not putting those conversions down, just not for me. The quickness of the LS is appealing but realistically, I never bought my 110 thinking it would be a race car.

If this 292 conversion works out to be all that it looks like it will be, count me in to covert from the 3.5 to this 292. All I'm looking for is being able to quickly get out on the highway and be able to maintain speed. On back roads at inclines/hills, I'm looking to not act like a loaded 18 wheeler...speed up going down the hill so I can hopefully make up the next incline and staying close to a decent speed. Being a bit of a "sleeper" truck for performance and surprising other drivers would be cool too but like I said, for me I'm not looking for a race car.

Having the extra room under the bonnet is a huge plus too. Ease of maintenance and room to add power steering and AC in the future is also appealing.

Can't wait to see more about this...who knows, maybe I'll be one of the early adopters!!! I enjoy working on and updating my 110 so this is right up my alley.
 

The Dro

Illustrious
The more I read about LS and Cummins engine swaps and all the various fabrications needed, I'm leaning more and more toward this setup as it seems like the right thing for me. Not putting those conversions down, just not for me. The quickness of the LS is appealing but realistically, I never bought my 110 thinking it would be a race car.

If this 292 conversion works out to be all that it looks like it will be, count me in to covert from the 3.5 to this 292. All I'm looking for is being able to quickly get out on the highway and be able to maintain speed. On back roads at inclines/hills, I'm looking to not act like a loaded 18 wheeler...speed up going down the hill so I can hopefully make up the next incline and staying close to a decent speed. Being a bit of a "sleeper" truck for performance and surprising other drivers would be cool too but like I said, for me I'm not looking for a race car.

Having the extra room under the bonnet is a huge plus too. Ease of maintenance and room to add power steering and AC in the future is also appealing.

Can't wait to see more about this...who knows, maybe I'll be one of the early adopters!!! I enjoy working on and updating my 110 so this is right up my alley.
Agreed. The price difference between the two is day and night.


There's a lot of us waiting for this kit to come out. :)
 

GynormousMellon

Well-known member
I bet its closer than you think after factoring in a $1500 transmission and $1000 EFI kit.
Realistically, whatever the new motor is, LS or the 292, it's probably either going to be an EFI or 4 barrel carb anyway so it's a wash.

Aren't most putting a new trans in with the LS too? Not sure but that's what I keep reading.

Thing that's attractive to me is the easy of dropping it in and the cost of the motor.

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Red90

Well-known member
I bet its closer than you think after factoring in a $1500 transmission and $1000 EFI kit.

You need neither. The whole point is it is designed to work with the stock gearbox. Straight bolt in job. EFI is just a nice to have.

You MUST use a new gearbox with the LS. And upgrade the axles, and, and, and, and....
 

mgreenspan

Founding Member
I bet its closer than you think after factoring in a $1500 transmission and $1000 EFI kit.

I doubt that. You are sitting at $10-12k just in parts for a basic LS swap. I highly doubt the 292 kit is going to cost anywhere close to $8k(plus $2k for a performance 292, $1k efi, $1.5k trans) to make it close in price.

I also missed the part where you need a new transmission.
 

rocky

NAS-ROW Addict
My Rover V8 is fine today, but this is looking like a great alternative.
Yes I would change to a stick shift (have to have one in the family). My only disagreement with RD in his spec in Post 1, is the TC ratio
Given the Max hp/torque revs I'm preferring the 1.003 ratio over the 1.22. 1950rpm v 2236 @70mph
 

The Dro

Illustrious
I bet its closer than you think after factoring in a $1500 transmission and $1000 EFI kit.
True. But you can run carbs and forget the EFI system... And from what I'm hearing they are a PITA to tune.


Also, a LS conversion is over $10k
 

dcg

Well-known member
RD... now that you've had a bit of driving time with the 292... does the extra 100lbs on the front end make any difference in handling (I calculated ~100lbs between a 200Tdi and the 292)?
 

Uncle Douglas

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RD... now that you've had a bit of driving time with the 292... does the extra 100lbs on the front end make any difference in handling (I calculated ~100lbs between a 200Tdi and the 292)?

less than the weight of a winch bumper
 

Robert

Well-known member
You need neither. The whole point is it is designed to work with the stock gearbox. Straight bolt in job. EFI is just a nice to have.

You MUST use a new gearbox with the LS. And upgrade the axles, and, and, and, and....


My bad, I read the bit on the first post about the Ashcroft short R380 as a requirement, didn't realize that was an option.
 
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