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evilfij

Well-known member
Can I live in the castle and drive the Porsches?
Believe it or not, that’s actually the idea. Bonus if you do castle projects too. I basically need another me without a job who wants to have my personal projects as a job.

For those that know me/have met me, this is not anywhere near as weird as it may sound. 🤣
 
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MountainD

Technical Excellence Contributor
Believe it or not, that’s actually the idea. Bonus if you do castle projects too. I basically need another me without a job who wants to have my personal projects as a job.

For those that know me/have met me, this is not anywhere near as weird as it may sound. 🤣
With current advances in medical cloning and organic 3d printing….
 

pfshoen

Well-known member
Range Rover Classics are not cheap. A nice 95 is NAS defender money. G-wagens are down a lot, but the entire car market is going down.

Land Rover can’t compete globally in the utility segment and really hasn’t since the defender went up market in the 90s. UK it’s a man with a van, US has pick ups (and vans), ROW (absent some legacy contracts with UK commonwealth militaries and NGO) runs Toyotas and Kei vehicles, China has its domestic vehicles, and yes, you could still buy a relatively utilitarian defender until near the end of production, but it was a niche vehicle.

The new defender, ya, you can buy a stripped down van model with rubber floors, but it’s 2x the cost of an actual utility vehicle.
Pricing I see puts an NAS approx 2-3x a comparable LWB RR.
Land Rover made a decision not to compete in part of the utility market they had dominated into the 2000's.
 

pfshoen

Well-known member
That's basically what Land Rover is doing now, except the RR and Disco have been moved farther upmarket too. I prefer Defenders to stay utilitarian. I love how they were available in so many different configurations to suit actual work, on the farm, industry, military, etc. Now they are just people movers like all the other boring SUVs.

When I was browsing old listings from the early 2010s someone complained about a Defender listed for $45k and said you could buy a 2011 Range Rover Sport for that. Now you could pick up one of those for less than $15k and the Defender is probably $90k now.
My suggestion is that it made more sense for Rover to build the Range Rover than try to make the Def into something like it, as has become popular these days. Rover doesn't build anything with a lineage older than 2004, all are variations of a luxury SUV, with nothing in common with utility trucks or Rover Classics.
 

hillstrubl

Founding Member
With current advances in medical cloning and organic 3d printing….
Just don't clone the clone

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