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rocky

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Its two weeks since my son got home from Spain. All good. Might even let him off the leash a bit today.
 

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Anyone have Senior’s affected by this shit? I’ve got a Senior in HS that got a call from his coaches this week that his Lacrosse season is officially done. Being senior year he was hoping something could be done to extend it. This class will also have no prom or HS graduation. What a painful lack of closure.

A couple summers ago he worked for a local indie shop in exchange for a ‘97 D1. It was a long, hot and humid summer he says taught him things he didn’t know he need to learn.
 

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rocky

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All spring sports are toast. I’m involved organizing a major soccer Tournament over Memorial Day. Already told my colleagues that it has a very low probability of happening/don’t bother trying to schedule it....
 

mgreenspan

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Congratulations on your SCAR. What a score.

Love the SCAR 17. I have one and put an Elcan SpecterDR optic on mine. It's a really neat piece of glass and probably one of the few things made by Raytheon that people like us can just go and buy.

I’ll take a look at those. Haven’t decided on what I want optics-wise yet.
 

RBBailey

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My son is a senior.

Track does not exist this year. We have a record of sending kids to the Olympics, several world champions. Deleted are any of the standard school activities or clubs or.... Our basketball team had just begun play-offs with the highest scoring team/individual in our school's history, and the rare chance that we might actually get to the finals.

We are trying to figure out how to get school going again once Spring Break is over on Monday, but there are too many law suits out there that we are being told that we cannot teach online, so no one really knows how the end of the year is going to go. Word from the state is that graduation credits will be modified, but grad credits are different than some other requirements. Without being allowed to teach, it is difficult trying to match the AP and college credit courses to what colleges require for the credit to count. The AP has modified the test, and my class is therefore already done with the curriculum. The rest of the time is going to be spent reviewing and prepping for the exam. The other classes I teach... it sounds like the vast majority of students and parents are going to be very surprised and disappointed in the coming week when they find out how the rest of the year is going to go...
 

donb

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Anyone have Senior’s affected by this shit? I’ve got a Senior in HS that got a call from his coaches this week that his Lacrosse season is officially done. Being senior year he was hoping something could be done to extend it. This class will also have no prom or HS graduation. What a painful lack of closure.

A couple summers ago he worked for a local indie shop in exchange for a ‘97 D1. It was a long, hot and humid summer he says taught him things he didn’t know he need to learn.

My daughter is a senior as well. Her lacrosse season isn't looking so good so far. I feel really badly for these kids - shitty situation for what should be a great spring and lifetime event.
 

RBBailey

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To clarify... when I say to get school going again this coming week, I mean online instruction. None of us want to go back into the petri dish.

And the legal action is against the schools to try to keep them from doing online instruction. Not to keep them closed, or to reopen the buildings, but to keep instruction from happening online. PM me if you want more clarification.
 

LostChord

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Anyone have Senior’s affected by this shit? I’ve got a Senior in HS that got a call from his coaches this week that his Lacrosse season is officially done. Being senior year he was hoping something could be done to extend it. This class will also have no prom or HS graduation. What a painful lack of closure.

A couple summers ago he worked for a local indie shop in exchange for a ‘97 D1. It was a long, hot and humid summer he says taught him things he didn’t know he need to learn.

Oldest daughter is a college senior...online classes the rest of the way for her last semester. No word on whether they will have graduation ceremonies.
 

BarryO

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Anyone have Senior’s affected by this shit?

Yea, big time. My son's a senior at Reed College in Portland. Senior year is pretty intense as they all have to write a Senior Thesis; that's the main thing they do during the last year. Every senior gets their own dedicated desk assigned to them in the school library. He's doing his on the conflict in Northern Ireland and got grant money to make two trips there, where he interviewed people on both sides: former prisoners, etc. He even tracked down the government bureaucrat whose responsible for closing the gates at night that separate the neighborhoods in Belfast. Needless to say, it's intense work.

As something of a reward for them, there's a bunch of traditional activities during the final semester that they get to look forward to. All that's been cancelled. Classes are online now, and on-campus students have been kicked out. Commencement has just been cancelled, too, with the promise that they'll do it during a reunion next year. They're pretty bummed.
 

BarryO

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And the legal action is against the schools to try to keep them from doing online instruction. Not to keep them closed, or to reopen the buildings, but to keep instruction from happening online. PM me if you want more clarification.

Same here. The district may do online, but it won't count for credit. Apparently the argument is that it wouldn't be fair to students that can't do things online.
 

RBBailey

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Colleges are allowed to conduct learning/teaching in whatever way they see fit. I'm sure a lot of them are working together to make sure it is high quality and that a lot of things mesh together so that accreditation will be maintained. I would much rather be teaching/learning at the college level at this point in time.
 

FlyersFan76

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To clarify... when I say to get school going again this coming week, I mean online instruction. None of us want to go back into the petri dish.

And the legal action is against the schools to try to keep them from doing online instruction. Not to keep them closed, or to reopen the buildings, but to keep instruction from happening online. PM me if you want more clarification.
No online instruction? My kids have been off for 2 week (or is it 3) and have had online classes/home school work since day 1. Grades 4, 6 and 8th.

Going to be strange how the various school districts and states deal with ending a school year.
 

WreckITFrank

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This is super cool. I have the 3 books for my little guy, need to get the 4th. Happy to support the author.

 

RDavisinVA

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Moved our daughter out of the freshman dorm at college earlier this month.
She is taking her school of engineering classes on-line.
It will be interesting to learn what happens to tuition fees.
If someone can get a good education on-line, then will brick and mortar universities become a thing of the past?

It is also interesting that most of the local municipalities have had limited VPN connections for professional staff for over 20 years, yet very few if any worked from home.
None of them had expanded on-line services until COVID-19 popped-up.
Now suddenly you can get permits on-line where you couldn't before.
It's a pity that very few people have original ideas.
They are all driven by trends that come from what others are doing.

It will be interesting to see what happens at VA DMV.
They put in a new "streamlined" system over 10 years ago, because most of the online services didn't exist.
Last time I checked in January, a customer was still required to go in person to the DMV for the most simple of services, like to transfer tags from one vehicle to another.
Since we are in "lock down" and can't go to DMV, I wonder how those knuckleheads will deal with providing service.
Would love to be a fly on the wall buzzing "no shit sherlock" when they decide to extend on-line services.

We are not experiencing a technology boom of on-line services, just experiencing a pandemic forcing people with limited vision to expand on-line services outside of their comfort zone of control to finally do something with the technology that has existed for over 25 years!
 
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TravelinLight

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Moved our daughter out of the freshman dorm at college earlier this month.
She is taking her school of engineering classes on-line.
It will be interesting to learn what happens to tuition fees.
If someone can get a good education on-line, then will brick and mortar universities become a thing of the past?

It is also interesting that most of the local municipalities have had limited VPN connections for professional staff for over 20 years, yet very few if any worked from home.
None of them had expanded on-line services until COVID-19 popped-up.
Now suddenly you can get permits on-line where you couldn't before.
It's a pity that very few people have original ideas.
They are all driven by trends that come from what others are doing.

It will be interesting to see what happens at VA DMV.
They put in a new "streamlined" system over 10 years ago, because most of the online services didn't exist.
Last time I checked in January, a customer was still required to go in person to the DMV for the most simple of services, like to transfer tags from one vehicle to another.
Since we are in "lock down" and can't go to DMV, I wonder how those knuckleheads will deal with providing service.
Would love to be a fly on the wall buzzing "no shit sherlock" when they decide to extend on-line services.

We are not experiencing a technology boom of on-line services, just experiencing a pandemic forcing people with limited vision to expand on-line services outside of their comfort zone of control to do something with the technology that has existed for over 25 years!
Robert,

I could not agree more. Teachers / Schools are terrified of the possibility people will become accustomed to online learning for a cheaper price and actually prefer / demand it.

My line of work is technology. We build internal software for a large Cable Provider. They have a strict work in the office policy. After 3 to 5 months of this I can see that they will need to revise that policy as we are all working longer hours. (Granted we are stuck at home)

Many services we used to go in for are now delivered. COVID as bad as it is, will force some much needed changes / speed them up.
 

RDavisinVA

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I have often thought of state or national online curriculum being standardized for all education from K to PHD.
Why not?
Once the course study has been developed, approved, and accepted, it's done.
Sure it will evolve, but history won't change, and neither will math, English, and many other subjects.

The brick and motor money could be redirected to pay for an individuals modern equipment for hands on work.
Online corporations bidding jobs online with drawings where anyone can bid on-line to manufacture from a 1 off to a large production run.
This would be a transition to a self sustaining society.
You want a GM inline 6 cylinder conversion kit, sure, the plans are offered online, and you hire a person that has the right equipment to build the components and ship them to you.
This would foster coops for production equipment that is pooled together for manufacturing and or assembly.
Violations we now know as scamming would have to be policed and eradicated, which may be the biggest challenge, but rules that make multiple successful outcomes put in place would go a long way.
eBay tried to do this with feedback and holding payments for new sellers transactions, but it was implemented incorrectly.
 
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rocky

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I have often thought of state or national online curriculum being standardized for all education from K to PHD.
Why not?
Once the course study has been developed, approved, and accepted, it's done.
Sure it will evolve, but history won't change, and neither will math, English, and many other subjects.

The brick and motor money could be redirected to pay for an individuals modern equipment for hands on work.
Online corporations bidding jobs online with drawings where anyone can bid on-line to manufacture from a 1 off to a large production run.
This would be a transition to a self sustaining society.
You want a GM inline 6 cylinder conversion kit, sure, the plans are offered online, and you hire a person that has the right equipment to build the components and ship them to you.
This would foster coops for production equipment that is pooled together for manufacturing and or assembly.
Violations we now know as scamming would have to be policed and eradicated, which may be the biggest challenge, but rules that make multiple successful outcomes put in place would go a long way.
eBay tried to do this with feedback, but it was implemented incorrectly.

I think most elementary, middle and High school parents are glad their little darlings are out of the house for much of the day.

Traditional bricks and mortar Universities and Colleges have always looked down noses at online learning but have adapted to the Covid induced reality. Some will take this as an opportunity to expand their reach beyond their hallowed walls, but most will retrench back into their comfort zones as soon as possible.....

Its going to be survival of the fittest.....
 

RDavisinVA

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I think most elementary, middle and High school parents are glad their little darlings are out of the house for much of the day.

Traditional bricks and mortar Universities and Colleges have always looked down noses at online learning but have adapted to the Covid induced reality. Some will take this as an opportunity to expand their reach beyond their hallowed walls, but most will retrench back into their comfort zones as soon as possible.....

Its going to be survival of the fittest.....

Reminds me of General Billy Mitchell bombing the 3 battleships in 1923 that were sunk at great surprise to the US Navy surface fleet advocates.
They only completely left all their surface ship narrow minded thinking behind after 12/7/1942.
By that time Billy had died after being kicked out for his radical thinking that became the norm in modern naval warfare.
 
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jymmiejamz

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I hope this means my wife can start working from home and then we wouldn't always be tied to a large city.
 
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