BFG KM3's

pmatusov

Technical Excellence Contributor
Callsign: AK6PM
I had two great sets of first-generation BFG M/T KM - 33" and 35".

I had three and a half horrible sets of BFG M/T KM2, and hope to never see them again. I still have a set, but will try to dump them on C-list.

I have two beautiful sets of Michelin XZL - far better tread pattern than KM2 (with, maybe an exception for ice - on which KM2 suck as well), rounder and quieter by far.

9.00-16" is taller than its nominal 34", though.
 

1of40

Well-known member
You guys can read the reviews of treadwright on dweb if you want. I would only recommend them if you are the type of person to throw on a different set of wheels and tires on to go offroading.

Having used three sets of treadwright tires I can tell you this. They are safe. They last normal tire lifespan treadwise. They balance easily. They work great off and on road. The new remould method of re-doing the entire carcass is better than their old method; however, 2 out of 4 from my last set of 285/70r17s that were on a Dodge Ram 2500 starting cracking after about 1 year.

If you care about how your tires work and don't freak out if they look old, use them as a second set and use your money on a set of nice street tires. If you are trying to save a few bucks just wait another month and pay $200 per tire. Yokohamas are like $5 more than these and are infinitely better.

If you are trying to be cheapfuckese, I don't recommend then at all. They have their place. It isn't on a daily driver. Feel free to give them a spin, but when you start liking at your tires in detail for potential safety reasons every day you'll eventually regret saving $5-45 per tire.

This is helpful. I know two local guys that have used them and have had overall good experience. I feel you?re right though re daily driving aspects.
 

AdamSanta85

Well-known member
I have two beautiful sets of Michelin XZL - far better tread pattern than KM2 (with, maybe an exception for ice - on which KM2 suck as well), rounder and quieter by far.

Wow XZL are quieter than KM2? KM2 are the only M/T I have owned and they are definitely not quiet.
 

mgreenspan

Founding Member
This is helpful. I know two local guys that have used them and have had overall good experience. I feel you?re right though re daily driving aspects.

Definitely. They provide good tread and grip and are incredibly affordable. If you plan on your tires getting cut up on rocks and the knobby mud terrain bits getting torn and worn from the same then they are perfect. You used to be able to request certain carcasses from specific brands. I don't know if you can still do that.
 

85RED110

Well-known member
Measured my 255 Toyo M/T's yesterday. With 45psi they measure about 32.5". I was a bit surprised and thought maybe I was using a Chinese tape measure. Maybe without the weight on the truck on them they would be a little taller, but certainly not a whole inch taller, like Toyo lists as the diameter. They only have about 2k miles on them, so there hasn't been any significant wear, either.

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Dan kemper

Founding Member
Callsign: KK6ECF
Adam, i have both the 255s bfg mt and 235 bfg at. My trail tires are xzl 8.25s. The tires are quiet for what they are an aggressive mt style tire. The real downside is the weight. they are heavy. this is a huge upside on the trail. recently ran them 16 hours each way on the highway to meet up with Peter and company and they did great. Putting my lighter bfgs on for daily driver duties. Bfg is a good tire, alittle noisy and as peter said not great on ice.

Wow XZL are quieter than KM2? KM2 are the only M/T I have owned and they are definitely not quiet.
 

Red90

Well-known member
Measured my 255 Toyo M/T's yesterday. With 45psi they measure about 32.5". I was a bit surprised and thought maybe I was using a Chinese tape measure. Maybe without the weight on the truck on them they would be a little taller...

Are you measuring from the ground? You need to measure horizontally. The weight of the truck will certainly deflect the tire an inch.
 

rover4x4

Well-known member
As much as I hate to admit Maxxis Bighorn in a 255/85 D load range are most likely my next tire. Should've kept those GCR rims for 33x10. The Toyo are incredibly expensive and apparently really heavy. My current KMs 255/85 D load have well over half thier tread remaining but are rotten
 

jymmiejamz

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Callsign: KN4JHI
I have two beautiful sets of Michelin XZL - far better tread pattern than KM2 (with, maybe an exception for ice - on which KM2 suck as well), rounder and quieter by far.

I also recently put a used set of 8.25R16 XZLs on my truck to try them out. I am 100% happy with them and I'm going to buy a couple sets to have once we have a permanent place to live. They were fine at Winter Romp, I was expecting them to be worse. I've had them in some mud in Vermont and they were fine, but it wasn't super sloppy deep mud. No complaints on the rocks.

On road they definitely ride better than the KM2s. They are really loud at 20-40 MPH, but after that, the wind noise drowns out the tire noise, and on the highway they are quieter than KM2s. The sound they make is totally different from any other tire I've heard. It is much higher pitched and sounds almost like the noise of a straight cut gear. My wife noticed they are quieter on the highway, so its not just me.
 

MountainD

Technical Excellence Contributor
If weight is applied, then they will be wider if measuring horizontally.



BTW, the formula, for a 255/85R16 (or any other tire) is: 255x85/2540x2+16 (the 2540 converts to inches). So it is 33.07" approx when new in theory.


But, like any round object such as this, when you apply pressure down, you will shorten height and widen width. Press a ball with your hands, you will see the same thing.



I am dissatisfied with my BFG KM2 255/85R16's. I have owned BFG KM Series for 15 years and I am never going back.


I will get something in the 34" range, good all around, that is what I am doing next.
 

rover4x4

Well-known member
TTT How are you all liking the KM3's I am between these and the Toyos, on paper they are very close the Toyo weighing about an pound more
 

Red90

Well-known member
If weight is applied, then they will be wider if measuring horizontally.

It won't. Your ball analogy is not analogous to a pressurized tire.

In any case. What is important for us is clearance created by the tire and this is set by the loaded radius. The best thing for people to look at is the revs/mile that are listed in the spec sheets for a tire and that will give a real comparison between specific tires.
 

1of40

Well-known member
TTT How are you all liking the KM3's I am between these and the Toyos, on paper they are very close the Toyo weighing about an pound more
My only reference is someone I met back in October. The guy has 20+ years of daily driving experience with his 110 and said he was shocked at the road performance. He also said the performance in sloppy mud conditions and rocky conditions were also above expectations. He is using the unique 750’s which I really found interesting as well.
 

rocky

NAS-ROW Addict
I've had the KM3s in 255/85-16 on for nearly a year now. Its a very good performer on road. Probably as good as an AT tire was a few years ago. Off road is fantastic. Very pleased.
 

Baldewin

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I see them in this ad in The Red Bulletin!
 

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