New Defenders starting to show up at dealers

chris snell

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This may be the lamest thing Land Rover has ever done. Probably more lame than the Fire Festival or whatever they did in California.

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Angus

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Oh, come on. They will probably traverse the most difficult malls and soccer fields of North America...the issue will be finding enough folks that can take time off soccer mom duties to compete.
 

UnfrozenCaveman

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Oh boy, they're really digging here ... even have the green & yellow old-timey logo ... sheesh

I'm headed that way to pick up some hub nut washers ... amazingly the local dealer sometimes has bargain prices on small things since they absorb the shipping on them ;)

I'm sure the old 110 will confuse them.
 

pfshoen

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Losing 2 tires in row like that is just pathetic. It doesn't matter what they're connected to, the tall wheels/short tires render it useless. The 18" steelies should help. I run 18" alloys on an LR3 on rocky fireroads at school zone speeds and have had no flats. But I wouldn't reduce tire pressure in rocky terrain, especially with those tires.
I read a test of the Pretender 90 in LANDY ZONE and the pics show that it likes to keep at least one tire airborne at all times. Apparently, there is no substitute for live axels.
Eventually, I expect the Pretender won't be included in off pavement comparison tests vs Jeep, Bronco, Grenadier. Wouldn't be fair.
 

chuckc4

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I wonder how the new Defenders are selling -- I have seen a few while traveling on the highways in MA, CT and NJ, as well as two locally. I also wonder how the 90 vs the 110 is doing sales-wise. Local dealer had two 90's and two 110's for a while (like 6 months) but now both 90's are gone and I think they have one 110 in stock now. While not a purists Defender, I imagine the $90K Trophy Edition will sell out quickly.
 

Mdubs

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WTF? JLR have completely lost the narrative.

 

Siia109

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What has not been mentioned - the Camel Trophy livery is actually a black vehicle with canary yellow wrap applied to the sides. As if calling it the "Pretender" was not enough - they fueled the validity of that statement by putting a "wrap" on the car.

Fake is as fake does.
 

pfshoen

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JLR is not content with ruining the Defender brand. Apparently, they feel that has been such a success they need to do the same thing to Range Rover. McGovern must be stopped before he kills again.
 
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KGH

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Ordered 2021 110 in Oct. Spec’d steel wheels, no sunroofs, cloth interior, all traction/terrain packages, cold weather package, 5 seats, white, 4 cyl. Very basic “Defender”.

November, dealer calls, have to reconfigure build as a ‘22 on JLR website. Ok, did that.

Late Jan, call dealer. They are getting minimal allotments, and for Jan could only order 6 cyl. Waiting to see what Feb and March allotments bring. And of course, have to reconfig build as a ‘23 on JLR website.

Huge supply chain issues, have called other nearby dealers and are getting same story about limited allotments, some only getting one model across JLR range for the month…

Meanwhile, wife is driving the new SuperDuty 350 as grocery getter.
 

KGH

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And searching JLR inventory search leads to stuff like this:
”Black 2022 Land Rover Defender 110 S 4WD 8-Speed Automatic 2.0L Turbocharged Due to inventory limitations and restrictions a local market adjustment of $25,000 has been placed on the MSRP of this vehicle. See dealer for details.”

So some of these dealers can just eat a bag of dicks.
 

WeBeCinYa

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And searching JLR inventory search leads to stuff like this:
”Black 2022 Land Rover Defender 110 S 4WD 8-Speed Automatic 2.0L Turbocharged Due to inventory limitations and restrictions a local market adjustment of $25,000 has been placed on the MSRP of this vehicle. See dealer for details.”

So some of these dealers can just eat a bag of dicks.
Hell with all of that. All of these will be 34,999 on used lots in short order.
 

broncoduecer

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Yeah it’s pretty disgusting. Seeing that around here too. And dealers proudly advertising used its low markup or how’s it hardly over msrp when it was new...more than a year ago.
 

erover82

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I’d rather find a Yukon AT4. It’s least offensive looking among the large SUVs, has more room akin to an LR4, there are way more dealers to service it, has enough off-road chops for the reality of how they’re used, and yes the infotainment system probably actually works.

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